An odd question

[Angrboda]

Hello Mercyvessel.

Why do you think there's a diety?

Why should people are about a collection of bronze age literature?

Cheers.

Not at work.

Hello Peebo-Thuhlu. 

I - of myself - don't have the power to convince anyone of anything, I merely testify of the things I know to be true - this based on my real experiences that are corroborated by the Holy Bible.  The Lord JESUS says "Freely you have received, freely give." - Matthew 10:8; so by His grace, I do.   

I could testify of supernatural experiences that I would not have survived (because of the clear danger then posed and my complete defenselessness thereto) - but for GOD's merciful, supernatural intervention!  He made it clear to me in a number of ways (including through His living word - the Bible), and I - by His grace - thanked and continue to unreservedly thank, and praise, and glorify Him. 

Apart from all this, and logically speaking - do your own research and see the particular order and great complexity in creation - from our galaxy in relation to the more than two trillion that we know of - to our solar system - to living creatures on this planet; ourselves (intricacies of the functions and mechanics of the body) included. When one truly looks introspectively and is fairly objective, one must admit that these things do not just happen and continue on by accident. They are really impressive! 

One wouldn't necessarily be so quick to deny a reported work of say, Pablo Picasso, just because one didn't know him or didn't actually see him paint it, would one?

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"So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of GOD" - Romans 10:17 

“If we see a house, Cleanthes, we conclude, with the greatest certainty, that it had an architect or builder because this is precisely the species of effect which we have experienced to proceed from that species of cause. But surely you will not affirm that the universe bears such a resemblance to a house that we can with the same certainty infer a similar cause, or that the analogy here is entire and perfect. The dissimilitude is so striking that the utmost you can here pretend to is a guess . . . ”

David Hume.

[Peebothuhlu]

Hello Peebo-Thuhlu. 

I - of myself - don't have the power to convince anyone of anything, I merely testify of the things I know to be true - this based on my real experiences that are corroborated by the Holy Bible.  The Lord JESUS says "Freely you have received, freely give." - Matthew 10:8; so by His grace, I do.   

I could testify of supernatural experiences that I would not have survived (because of the clear danger then posed and my complete defenselessness thereto) - but for GOD's merciful, supernatural intervention!  He made it clear to me in a number of ways (including through His living word - the Bible), and I - by His grace - thanked and continue to unreservedly thank, and praise, and glorify Him. 

Apart from all this, and logically speaking - do your own research and see the particular order and great complexity in creation - from our galaxy in relation to the more than two trillion that we know of - to our solar system - to living creatures on this planet; ourselves (intricacies of the functions and mechanics of the body) included. When one truly looks introspectively and is fairly objective, one must admit that these things do not just happen and continue on by accident. They are really impressive! 

One wouldn't necessarily be so quick to deny a reported work of say, Pablo Picasso, just because one didn't know him or didn't actually see him paint it, would one?

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"So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of GOD" - Romans 10:17 

I'm glad you're able to be with us and you've over come the trials and tribulations of fate.

So... it's wonderful that you've had many experiances.

How do you demonstrate that there is anything supernatural that's not simply something within your mind?

In my life, so far, I've not seen anything to indicate that any supernatural things exist. There is (Are?) no evidence of;

Naraguns (Native Australan nature spirit. Think giant hermit crab made of rock that lives inside boulders and wakes up p!ssed during thunderstorms. Hence why people go missing during really bad weather)

Tuatha De Danna (Irish/Celtic fae. Think Tolkien elves. Like the Noldor. Really big super magical critters with major attitude.)

Keep adding other myths and folk lore to the list. I see nothing but fables that people used to make sense of a terrifying and uncaring reality.

So. Again, it's nice that you have faith.

I don't have such. How do you get/demonstrate your faith to match reality?

Cheers.

Not at work.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Hello Peebo-Thuhlu. 

I - of myself - don't have the power to convince anyone of anything, I merely testify of the things I know to be true - this based on my real experiences that are corroborated by the Holy Bible.  The Lord JESUS says "Freely you have received, freely give." - Matthew 10:8; so by His grace, I do.   

I could testify of supernatural experiences that I would not have survived (because of the clear danger then posed and my complete defenselessness thereto) - but for GOD's merciful, supernatural intervention!  He made it clear to me in a number of ways (including through His living word - the Bible), and I - by His grace - thanked and continue to unreservedly thank, and praise, and glorify Him. 

Apart from all this, and logically speaking - do your own research and see the particular order and great complexity in creation - from our galaxy in relation to the more than two trillion that we know of - to our solar system - to living creatures on this planet; ourselves (intricacies of the functions and mechanics of the body) included. When one truly looks introspectively and is fairly objective, one must admit that these things do not just happen and continue on by accident. They are really impressive! 

One wouldn't necessarily be so quick to deny a reported work of say, Pablo Picasso, just because one didn't know him or didn't actually see him paint it, would one?

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"So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of GOD" - Romans 10:17 

Rubbish 

[Astreja]

"But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment...

No problem. There will be no day of judgement. I've cancelled it and replaced it with a potluck supper. Please bring a hot dish, plates and cutlery, and your own lawnchair.

Seriously, Mercyvessel, you're wasting your time using the Bible to threaten us. In my eyes it has no value whatsoever as a predictor of future events. None. None at all.

I also believe that there is no such thing as eternal life, and that you will never see heaven no matter how fervently you believe or how much you pray. When you eventually die, the moment your brain ceases to function you will immediately lose everything you ever knew and believed, and you will remain in that state permanently.

And for threatening us with the wrath of your imaginary fiend, I think it would be jolly good for reality to slap you silly for a few months, or until you learn to express your faith in terms that doesn't involve trying to scare other people into joining your dead-rabbi-on-a-stick club.

[Pat Mustard]

If the supposed supernatural consequences occurred in real life, it would be way more instructive.

Oh, but they do! The Holy Bible is replete with historic examples.

Amazing how all these "historic" examples occur before the art of historical enquiry was invented. It's as if your bullshit fantasy novel is spewing bullshit.

[Mister Agenda]

If the supposed supernatural consequences occurred in real life, it would be way more instructive.

Oh, but they do! The Holy Bible is replete with historic examples.

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Not sure you understand what 'historic' means in the context of real life. The Bible is the source of your claim that these things happen. Observing them happening consistently in real life today would teach us something that stories in an old book in a world replete with stories in old books never can. If Yahweh is striking people dead for their sins in real life today, he's not doing it in a way that we can distinguish from random causes of death that happen to everyone (sooner or later).

[The Grand Nudger]

You can get a pretty clear picture of when to watch a god botherer like a hawk by the list of people they think that their god is striking down at present.

That’s who they’d personally kill if they believed they could get away with it. Those are The Good Kills.

[Gwaithmir]

"So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of GOD" - Romans 10:17

"And they shall stand in despair before the white cliffs of the world, and shall chant from their empty tomes in vain, for their words are nothing! And Erú shall prevail against His enemies and they shall be cast into the Void, for their enchantments are naught and their gods are helpless before Him." (The Silmarillion, 17:82)

[Fake Messiah]

Apart from all this, and logically speaking - do your own research and see the particular order and great complexity in creation - from our galaxy in relation to the more than two trillion that we know of - to our solar system - to living creatures on this planet; ourselves (intricacies of the functions and mechanics of the body) included. When one truly looks introspectively and is fairly objective, one must admit that these things do not just happen and continue on by accident. They are really impressive! 

Nature is not very orderly but rather sloppy. And for the order that we do see nobody says that it happened and continues to happen by accident. The galaxies that you mention are formed by forces like gravity.

To give a more trivial but enlightening example: what could be more 'random' and unintentional than shaking up an object? Take some iron filings, place them on paper with a magnet underneath, and shake, and the random agitation will result in orderly patterns flowing from nothing more than the natural magnetic field's action on the iron — unless you want to insist that some god(s) stepped in to arrange the iron in orderly patterns?

[Peebothuhlu]

Hello Mercyvessel.

Why do you think there's a diety?

Why should people are about a collection of bronze age literature?

Cheers.

Not at work.

Hello Peebo-Thuhlu. 

1) I - of myself - don't have the power to convince anyone of anything, I merely testify of the things I know to be true - this based on my real experiences that are corroborated by the Holy Bible.  The Lord JESUS says "Freely you have received, freely give." - Matthew 10:8; so by His grace, I do.   

2) I could testify of supernatural experiences that I would not have survived (because of the clear danger then posed and my complete defenselessness thereto) - but for GOD's merciful, supernatural intervention!  He made it clear to me in a number of ways (including through His living word - the Bible), and I - by His grace - thanked and continue to unreservedly thank, and praise, and glorify Him. 

3) Apart from all this, and logically speaking - do your own research and see the particular order and great complexity in creation - from our galaxy in relation to the more than two trillion that we know of - to our solar system - to living creatures on this planet; ourselves (intricacies of the functions and mechanics of the body) included. When one truly looks introspectively and is fairly objective, one must admit that these things do not just happen and continue on by accident. They are really impressive! 

One wouldn't necessarily be so quick to deny a reported work of say, Pablo Picasso, just because one didn't know him or didn't actually see him paint it, would one?

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"So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of GOD" - Romans 10:17 

So....

1) You've had "Experiances" ? How do you demonstrate they were 'Real' or not just some product of your mind?

2) You've had "Experiances" ? How do you demonstrate they were 'Real' or not just some product of your mind?

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