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Ghost Guns - one of the left's lies.
June 22, 2021 at 12:34 pm
President Biden wants to rid the world of "ghost guns" and wants to get you all excited that he's "doing something".
Indeed he is - blowing smoke up your ass.
Let's talk facts.
The "ghost gun" is one described as having no serial numbers making it "impossible to track".
Really. How are you going to "track" a gun by serial number?
.....
You cannot tell the guns I have by serial number. Some have serial numbers - some don't. But you have no way at all to "track" how many guns I have.
Stone fucking fact.
Here's what you don't know -- The Federal Government HAS NO LIST OF GUNS - OR WHO OWNS THEM. (Some states do have records of pistols - and Commiefornia requires registration of some rifles)
Fact. Period. end of statement.
"But... but... but... " You say - "They got the serial numbers when you bought the gun".
Nope. They didn't. FACT. When a 4474 is filled out - it is NOT given to the government. Ditto the NICS check. When they make a NICS check - they do NOT give the serial number - or even the make or model of the weapon. They only give "pistol or long gun".
And here's the kicker -- the records the gun shop make - the 4473 and the Bound Book Ledger (which lists all sales) is only kept for 20 years -- and then they are destroyed.
......
So exactly what does "Getting rid of Ghost Guns" do for you???
....
It gives you the illusion that the government "did something" about gun violence....
THE ONLY way to track a gun - is to take it off a perpetrator and go to the manufacturer - and find out what FFL dealer it was sold to -- then you can go get to that dealer (if it was less than 20 years ago) and see who the gun was first sold to. But then - who gives a shit? YOU ALREADY HAVE THE PERP....
Conclusion -- this legislation is a solution in search of a problem.
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RE: Ghost Guns - one of the left's lies.
June 22, 2021 at 12:44 pm
(June 22, 2021 at 12:34 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: President Biden wants to rid the world of "ghost guns" and wants to get you all excited that he's "doing something".
Indeed he is - blowing smoke up your ass.
Let's talk facts.
The "ghost gun" is one described as having no serial numbers making it "impossible to track".
Really. How are you going to "track" a gun by serial number?
.....
You cannot tell the guns I have by serial number. Some have serial numbers - some don't. But you have no way at all to "track" how many guns I have.
Stone fucking fact.
Here's what you don't know -- The Federal Government HAS NO LIST OF GUNS - OR WHO OWNS THEM. (Some states do have records of pistols - and Commiefornia requires registration of some rifles)
Fact. Period. end of statement.
"But... but... but... " You say - "They got the serial numbers when you bought the gun".
Nope. They didn't. FACT. When a 4474 is filled out - it is NOT given to the government. Ditto the NICS check. When they make a NICS check - they do NOT give the serial number - or even the make or model of the weapon. They only give "pistol or long gun".
And here's the kicker -- the records the gun shop make - the 4473 and the Bound Book Ledger (which lists all sales) is only kept for 20 years -- and then they are destroyed.
......
So exactly what does "Getting rid of Ghost Guns" do for you???
....
It gives you the illusion that the government "did something" about gun violence....
THE ONLY way to track a gun - is to take it off a perpetrator and go to the manufacturer - and find out what FFL dealer it was sold to -- then you can go get to that dealer (if it was less than 20 years ago) and see who the gun was first sold to. But then - who gives a shit? YOU ALREADY HAVE THE PERP....
Conclusion -- this legislation is a solution in search of a problem.
^^^^^^^ Distract and deflect.
How does any of what you just typed have to do with the volumes of firearms sold and the volume of firearm deaths per year?
If more firearms meant less violence then why are we #1 among western allies in firearm deaths?
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RE: Ghost Guns - one of the left's lies.
June 22, 2021 at 12:49 pm
(June 22, 2021 at 12:44 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (June 22, 2021 at 12:34 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: President Biden wants to rid the world of "ghost guns" and wants to get you all excited that he's "doing something".
Indeed he is - blowing smoke up your ass.
Let's talk facts.
The "ghost gun" is one described as having no serial numbers making it "impossible to track".
Really. How are you going to "track" a gun by serial number?
.....
You cannot tell the guns I have by serial number. Some have serial numbers - some don't. But you have no way at all to "track" how many guns I have.
Stone fucking fact.
Here's what you don't know -- The Federal Government HAS NO LIST OF GUNS - OR WHO OWNS THEM. (Some states do have records of pistols - and Commiefornia requires registration of some rifles)
Fact. Period. end of statement.
"But... but... but... " You say - "They got the serial numbers when you bought the gun".
Nope. They didn't. FACT. When a 4474 is filled out - it is NOT given to the government. Ditto the NICS check. When they make a NICS check - they do NOT give the serial number - or even the make or model of the weapon. They only give "pistol or long gun".
And here's the kicker -- the records the gun shop make - the 4473 and the Bound Book Ledger (which lists all sales) is only kept for 20 years -- and then they are destroyed.
......
So exactly what does "Getting rid of Ghost Guns" do for you???
....
It gives you the illusion that the government "did something" about gun violence....
THE ONLY way to track a gun - is to take it off a perpetrator and go to the manufacturer - and find out what FFL dealer it was sold to -- then you can go get to that dealer (if it was less than 20 years ago) and see who the gun was first sold to. But then - who gives a shit? YOU ALREADY HAVE THE PERP....
Conclusion -- this legislation is a solution in search of a problem.
^^^^^^^ Distract and deflect.
How does any of what you just typed have to do with the volumes of firearms sold and the volume of firearm deaths per year?
If more firearms meant less violence then why are we #1 among western allies in firearm deaths? Yes - you are distracting and deflecting. No question.
This post has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VOLUME OF FIREARMS BEING SOLD.
Just because that subject is stuck firmly up your ass does not mean it must be shared on every thread ever created.
Now stop your bullshit.
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RE: Ghost Guns - one of the left's lies.
June 22, 2021 at 12:55 pm
You had to do it, didn’t you OLB? He was perfectly quiet about guns for almost a week, and you just HAD to pull the cork and let the genie out of the bottle. 😜
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RE: Ghost Guns - one of the left's lies.
June 22, 2021 at 1:05 pm
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2021 at 1:05 pm by brewer.)
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RE: Ghost Guns - one of the left's lies.
June 22, 2021 at 1:07 pm
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2021 at 1:12 pm by Brian37.)
(June 22, 2021 at 12:55 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You had to do it, didn’t you OLB? He was perfectly quiet about guns for almost a week, and you just HAD to pull the cork and let the genie out of the bottle. 😜
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I find it absurd that anyone would worry about my pointing out a very real health epidemic as being less important than actually reducing firearm violence.
But ok, if everyone is fine with an average of 100 firearm deaths per day, please keep looking at my finger when I am pointing to the moon.
(June 22, 2021 at 12:49 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (June 22, 2021 at 12:44 pm)Brian37 Wrote: ^^^^^^^ Distract and deflect.
How does any of what you just typed have to do with the volumes of firearms sold and the volume of firearm deaths per year?
If more firearms meant less violence then why are we #1 among western allies in firearm deaths? Yes - you are distracting and deflecting. No question.
This post has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VOLUME OF FIREARMS BEING SOLD.
Just because that subject is stuck firmly up your ass does not mean it must be shared on every thread ever created.
Now stop your bullshit.
YES IT DOES MORON!
PUT UP OR SHUT UP, give me a number as to how many firearms in civilian hands would satisfy you?
1 billion firearms, 10 billion firearms, 20 billion firearms? GIVE ME A FUCKING NUMBER. You cant.
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RE: Ghost Guns - one of the left's lies.
June 22, 2021 at 1:24 pm
(June 22, 2021 at 1:07 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (June 22, 2021 at 12:55 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You had to do it, didn’t you OLB? He was perfectly quiet about guns for almost a week, and you just HAD to pull the cork and let the genie out of the bottle. 😜
Boru
I find it absurd that anyone would worry about my pointing out a very real health epidemic as being less important than actually reducing firearm violence.
But ok, if everyone is fine with an average of 100 firearm deaths per day, please keep looking at my finger when I am pointing to the moon.
(June 22, 2021 at 12:49 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Yes - you are distracting and deflecting. No question.
This post has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VOLUME OF FIREARMS BEING SOLD.
Just because that subject is stuck firmly up your ass does not mean it must be shared on every thread ever created.
Now stop your bullshit.
YES IT DOES MORON!
PUT UP OR SHUT UP, give me a number as to how many firearms in civilian hands would satisfy you?
1 billion firearms, 10 billion firearms, 20 billion firearms? GIVE ME A FUCKING NUMBER. You cant.
The only thing worse in the world than gun worshipers are idiots who defend big oil.
1. Reducing the numbers of guns will not reduce gun violence.
2. The epidemic you're referring to is the willingness of people to use guns, not how many people have them.
3. OLB's right and you're wrong - his post was absolutely unrelated to the sales volume or possession rate of firearms.
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RE: Ghost Guns - one of the left's lies.
June 22, 2021 at 1:50 pm
(June 22, 2021 at 12:55 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You had to do it, didn’t you OLB? He was perfectly quiet about guns for almost a week, and you just HAD to pull the cork and let the genie out of the bottle. 😜
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RE: Ghost Guns - one of the left's lies.
June 22, 2021 at 1:56 pm
(June 22, 2021 at 1:24 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 1. Reducing the numbers of guns will not reduce gun violence.
2. The epidemic you're referring to is the willingness of people to use guns, not how many people have them.
3. OLB's right and you're wrong - his post was absolutely unrelated to the sales volume or possession rate of firearms.
Boru
1: Would reducing the number of cars on the road reduce car deaths. Yes it would. The same with uns. And in fact every time countries have restricted gun ownership gun deaths drop.
2: And reducing people willing to use guns access to guns would reduce their ability to use the guns they are willing to use. Fewer guns deaths would result.
3: You like your guns and are willing to accept any number of deaths so you can have them.
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RE: Ghost Guns - one of the left's lies.
June 22, 2021 at 2:03 pm
(June 22, 2021 at 12:55 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You had to do it, didn’t you OLB? He was perfectly quiet about guns for almost a week, and you just HAD to pull the cork and let the genie out of the bottle. 😜
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