[Serious] PSA: Rape Apologetics

[Angrboda]

So Huggy,  

If I steal your wallet and don't get caught, am I guilty of stealing your wallet?

That's a simple question with a yes or no answer.

[awty]

So Huggy,  

If I steal your wallet and don't get caught, am I guilty of stealing your wallet?

That's a simple question with a yes or no answer.

No it isn't. I stole the wallet but didn't get caught. Am I guilty of stealing the wallet?

[brewer]

I stole the wallet but didn't get caught.  Am I guilty of stealing the wallet?

I'll take a stab at that.

No, because I offered you unidentified drugs, and you took them, knowing full well I intended to steal your wallet and that you'd be unable to object.

How's that for rationalization?

[Angrboda]

No it isn't.  I stole the wallet but didn't get caught.  Am I guilty of stealing the wallet?

It was a joke, dear.

[awty]

No it isn't.  I stole the wallet but didn't get caught.  Am I guilty of stealing the wallet?

It was a joke, dear.

Apologies.

I've no sense of humor in this particular thread.

[Huggy Bear]

It's like this, Huggy. He admitted to drugging them and screwing them. The legal system screwed up, it's true. He's guilty of rape, he admitted it himself.

So Cosby admitted to rape? I read the affidavit and saw no such admission, you're going to have to prove that.

Getting out of prison because due process wasn't followed does not make him innocent. If you don't want to understand and admit that, all hope is lost on you.

The conviction was OVERTURNED, which means the assumption of innocence is still in effect, how do YOU not understand that part?

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And the conviction was overturned... your point?

Huggy, why don't you answer Camus's question?

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Given what you know regarding the situation, which determination would you make?

A) Bill Cosby is a rapist.

B) Bill Cosby is not a rapist.

We know the thing you pick isn't legally binding. But which one do you think is true?

LFC's question was regarding the accusers who waited past the statute of limitations... On what evidence am I to base my determination of guilt or innocence?

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So Huggy,  

If I steal your wallet and don't get caught, am I guilty of stealing your wallet?

That's a simple question with a yes or no answer.

That's a loaded question...

If you stole my wallet and didn't get caught, how do I know you stole it? If I know you stole it and accused you of such, then you having the wallet in your possession would be the proof of such.

Now let me ask you a question, if you accuse me of stealing your wallet 40 years ago, how am I supposed to prove I didn't?

[Rev. Rye]

[awty]

It's like this, Huggy. He admitted to drugging them and screwing them. The legal system screwed up, it's true. He's guilty of rape, he admitted it himself.

So Cosby admitted to rape? I read the affidavit and saw no such admission, you're going to have to prove that.

Getting out of prison because due process wasn't followed does not make him innocent. If you don't want to understand and admit that, all hope is lost on you.

The conviction was OVERTURNED, which means the assumption of innocence is still in effect, how do YOU not understand that part?

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Huggy, why don't you answer Camus's question?

***

Given what you know regarding the situation, which determination would you make?

A) Bill Cosby is a rapist.

B) Bill Cosby is not a rapist.

We know the thing you pick isn't legally binding. But which one do you think is true?

LFC's question was regarding the accusers who waited past the statute of limitations... On what evidence am I to base my determination of guilt or innocence?

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So Huggy,  

If I steal your wallet and don't get caught, am I guilty of stealing your wallet?

That's a simple question with a yes or no answer.

That's a loaded question...

If you stole my wallet and didn't get caught, how do I know you stole it? If I know you stole it and accused you of such, then you having the wallet in your possession would be the proof of such.

Now let me ask you a question, if you accuse me of stealing your wallet 40 years ago, how am I supposed to prove I didn't?

First of all I asked you to answer the question of my guilt. When does not matter. If I stole your wallet, I am guilty. Doesn't matter if you know it, the cops know it, doesn't matter. I stole your wallet and am guilty of same.

My guilt exists regardless of who, other than me, knows about it. Period, full stop.

It's only loaded to you because you can't figure out how to make your answer fit your Cosby narrative. That's why you brought up the 40 years thing.

The statute of limitations has nothing to do with guilt or innocence. It has only to do with a crime being able to be tried in a court of law due to the passage of time.

For a supposed god believer, you sure like to make up different standards to fit what suits you.

[Huggy Bear]

[vulcanlogician]

It's reasonable to assume someone is truthful when they incriminate themselves.

There is having good reason to believe testimony and then there is blindly believing testimony. What you ought to do is try to show that someone here is doing the latter... rather than asking: "Since you believe this testimony, why don't you believe all testimonies?" That's a ludicrous question to ask.