[Serious] PSA: Rape Apologetics

[Abaddon_ire]

This thread is odd. Atheists are condemning rape in all forms, but the god botherers are falling over themselves to defend it because why? What is up with that? Why are the religious in favour of rape?

[Mermaid]

This thread is odd. Atheists are condemning rape in all forms, but the god botherers are falling over themselves to defend it because why? What is up with that? Why are the religious in favour of rape?

Women are a man's property.

[Abaddon_ire]

This thread is odd. Atheists are condemning rape in all forms, but the god botherers are falling over themselves to defend it because why? What is up with that? Why are the religious in favour of rape?

Women are a man's property.

As a bloke, I find that creepy. I have never owned any woman, girl, child, infant and would not want to. And would have no right to do so.

In fact, my eldest is 19 next month. What I think does not matter. My youngest is 16 next month and does not care anyway.

Somehow, the religious think that I have some right to dictate to both.

[tackattack]

I neither think women are property or defend rape and I believe both those mis characterizations are exactly the type of straw meaning that leads to further communication problems and mischaracterization of atheists as a whole

[Rev. Rye]

[The Architect Of Fate]

Plenty of Evangelicals think of women as property or at least speak as if women are property, And plenty are willing to show horrific levels of lenience toward members of their church that have engaged in sexual violations.

[Mermaid]

I neither think women are property or defend rape and I believe both those mis characterizations are exactly the type of straw meaning that leads to further communication problems and mischaracterization of atheists as a whole

US-centrically, the very core of our culture lies with the multi religion foundation that a woman is meant to serve men and have their babies. Women are culturally meant to be ornamental (don't get fat!), cover up (Temptress! You could get raped!) and to shut up and sit quietly with our hands folded and not make waves (Shrew!). We can't sleep around (whore!!!), can't get abortions (murderer!!!) and the Catholic church jury is still out on birth control, even now (Sluts!). We are lesser-than as a result and still make less money than men. We couldn't even get credit or birth control pills without our husbands' approval until like 40 years ago. Rapists are almost never punished, and the highest court in the nation contains one man who badly sexually harassed his employee (Hill was waved off as irrational and crazy) , and another had a very credible sexual assault accusation (Ford also waved off as irrational and crazy). 

This cultural shit is all based on religious principles. 

So yeah, this is not a mischaracterization.

[John 6IX Breezy]

This cultural shit is all based on religious principles. 

Feminists, such as Sandra Bem, attribute what you described in your initial paragraph to androcentrism—the privileging of males and the male experience. I think it would be more accurate to say that androcentrism can infect religion like it can society, rather than the reverse relationship you're suggesting. Consider, for example, that androcentrism can be removed from religion with relative ease, as in the case of woman's ordination, but that removing religion from society does not put an end to androcentrism. Hollywood is regarded as a secular environment, it often clashes with traditional Christianity, yet you can find androcentrism there: movies are often directed for the male gaze (a trope associated with objectifying or sexualizing) rather than the female gaze.

[tackattack]

The mischaracterizations that “the religious are in favor of rape” or that “ women are men’s” property are factually incorrect as a us centric religious tenant , and an exaggerated straw man to vilify the religious.

I agree that some men see women as their property, and that drich seemed to indicate acceptance of rape. Neither of those views stem from a religious doctrine. They may be a part of culture that needs to be addressed , but lumping that with xx religion/ religious people you have beef with is a fallacious way to start an argument and easily disproven as anti-religious bias. You’re entitled to your opinion, no matter how shitty, just like the religious on this Forum.

[Rev. Rye]