Marxism, what you got?

[The Architect Of Fate]

If you absolutely cannot find a way to be happy, in America, you should probably just be excommunicated to another country.

Ahh yes, "Deport people who don't agree with my political stances!"

Doesn't sound remotely authoritarian.

Or at the very least tell them too leave because they think the country should be diffrent

[Ahriman]

If you absolutely cannot find a way to be happy, in America, you should probably just be excommunicated to another country.

America isn't a religion 

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Okay, then, sent away to another country. I mean, if you're not happy here, maybe go over there, and see how you feel about it.

Or stay and try and fix what you don't like about it

I would say mainstream American society is a form of religion, but if you disagree, that's fine. That's just the way I see it. And let's just say, the people I'm talking about, who aren't happy, have done everything they can possibly do, within the American system, and still aren't happy. I think, in this case, they should be sent to a different country, of their choosing, with enough money to avoid immediate destitution, so they can get on their feet, in the new country, and hopefully, make something of themselves, and be happy.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

That’s not what ‘excommunicated’ means, you ignorant wretch.

Boru

Okay, then, sent away to another country. I mean, if you're not happy here, maybe go over there, and see how you feel about it.

I’m already over there.

Boru

[The Architect Of Fate]

I would say mainstream American society is a form of religion, but if you disagree, that's fine. 

Yes, I do disagree with it. Because it's not true 

That's just the way I see it. 

Then the way you see it is off 

And let's just say, the people I'm talking about, who aren't happy, have done everything they can possibly do, within the American system, and still aren't happy.

Too which my obvious response is then the system should change 

 I think, in this case, they should be sent to a different country, of their choosing, with enough money to avoid immediate destitution, so they can get on their feet, in the new country, and hopefully, make something of themselves, and be happy.

Or they can stay and fix the country

[Ahriman]

Why should the system change? Just for the unhappy people? Happiness is the ideal state of a human being, and some people, are indeed happy with the system, and don't want it to change. Should we deprive those people of happiness, just because some people are unhappy? The system should work for happy people, not unhappy people. The system should reward happy people, and punish unhappy people, to the point of exclusion from the system, if need be.

[Angrboda]

Why should the system change? Just for the unhappy people? Happiness is the ideal state of a human being, and some people, are indeed happy with the system, and don't want it to change. Should we deprive those people of happiness, just because some people are unhappy? The system should work for happy people, not unhappy people. The system should reward happy people, and punish unhappy people, to the point of exclusion from the system, if need be.

[Ahriman]

Come up with something better, then you can talk.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Why should the system change?

Because it's clear the system isn't working for everyone 

 Just for the unhappy people?

A system should work for the people who live in it

 Happiness is the ideal state of a human being, and some people, are indeed happy with the system, and don't want it to change.

But not everyone. Why should only some people get to be happy?

 Should we deprive those people of happiness, just because some people are unhappy? 

Who says we have to? and why should those people get to keep all the happiness for themselves?

The system should work for happy people, not unhappy people.

That's backward 

 

The system should reward happy people, and punish unhappy people, to the point of exclusion from the system, if need be.

Happiness should be the reward of all people

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Come up with something better, then you can talk.

One doesn't need a better system to call out the current one

[Ahriman]

No system works for everyone. That's a fantasy. There will always be at least one person, or one group of people, who are unhappy with the system. It is not a happy person's obligation, to sacrifice his/her own happiness, for the happiness of another person.

[The Architect Of Fate]

No system works for everyone. 

A system should at the very least try

That's a fantasy.

No, it's an ideal 

 There will always be at least one person, or one group of people, who are unhappy with the system.

A system should at the very least try

 It is not a happy person's obligation, to sacrifice his/her own happiness, for the happiness of another person.

Then the happy person is a selfish jerk who is happy letting other people be unhappy.