Covid 19 conspiracies dump

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

Yeah. ... "Insemination, the terrifying new contagion. "

[Rev. Rye]

At work.


 Yeah. Am pretty sure IR is just conflating "Perfectly safe" with the "Every medical interaction has the potential for some other interaction/effect."

 I lost an Uncle to what was described as 'Routine surgery'.

 (Been a long shift. Can't think if the term atm. Sorry)

Perfectly safe is an impossible standard. Once again IA proves he can't argue worth a damn.

For the record, just looked up the number of side effects from COVID jabs from VAERS again, this time sorted by manufacturer.



As of March 13 (admittedly 9 days after the VAERS data is from), 328507974 doses of the Pfizer vaccine were given in the US.

Odds of a side effect worth noting: 1 in 988.
Odds of a severe side effect: 1 in 7203.


And for the record, I decided to compare that to the odds of getting in a car crash. I didn’t find stats for that directly, but I did find that esurance estimated 1 in 366 odds for getting in a car crash per 1000 miles. Multiply that by the average American driving 14,263 miles per year, I got odds of 3.897%. Just a bit less than 1 in 25 every year. Yearly odds of dying in a car crash? For 2020, it was 1 in 7782 (note: to access, click "data table", then "download table," and there should be an option to view it as a web page). Which is only 8% lower than the odds of getting a severe side effect from the Pfizer vaccine.

TL;DR: The odds of getting a severe side effect from the Pfizer vaccine (which may or may not actually be from the vaccine) are slightly higher than the odds of dying in a car crash in a given year.

[HappySkeptic]

TL;DR: The odds of getting a severe side effect from the Pfizer vaccine (which may or may not actually be from the vaccine) are slightly higher than the odds of dying in a car crash in a given year.

We've been over this.  Just because something in the VAERS database doesn't mean there is a causal connection.  It is an upper-limit (assuming all incidents get reported) to possible connections.  Scientists pour over this data to find if there are any effects which are higher than expected for a random population, or compared to other vaccine reporting.

[Rev. Rye]

TL;DR: The odds of getting a severe side effect from the Pfizer vaccine (which may or may not actually be from the vaccine) are slightly higher than the odds of dying in a car crash in a given year.

We've been over this.  Just because something in the VAERS database doesn't mean there is a causal connection.  It is an upper-limit (assuming all incidents get reported) to possible connections.  Scientists pour over this data to find if there are any effects which are higher than expected for a random population, or compared to other vaccine reporting.

A point that I acknowledge, and which only drives my point further home, since that upper limit (which includes a large range of side effects up to and including death and may not actually be caused by the vaccine) is just barely worse than the odds of dying in a car crash, something that these anti-vaxxers, to my knowledge, aren't making a point of avoiding.

[Irreligious Atheist]

Does anyone want to force everyone to get an abortion?

And last I checked pregnancy wasn't contagious nor are their instances in modern times where abortions have been mandatory. So highjacking the rhetoric of pro-choice fails as my body my choice ends where you knowingly refuse to take precautions to protect other people's bodies and recklessly spread a potentially lethal disease because you have an irrational fear of a laughably low chance of an adverse effect from the vaccine or worst whining that there are social consquences to YOUR CHOICE not to get the vaccine ....As i said IA sucks at logic 

China had the one child policy. And abortion has a massive impact on society at large. Crime rates, poverty, etc. This can impact millions of people. But anyhow, my point was not to do a one to one comparison. My point was to mock your religious "anti-vax" label, which you've been taught to parrot by the mainstream at least once per post. Being against forcefully doing something to a person does not make you anti that thing, but when you tell yourself something enough times, you start to believe it I guess. Coming from someone like you who thinks scratching someone is a lynching, I guess I shouldn't expect any less. Words mean nothing any longer to the woke. Everything is being redefined.

[Fake Messiah]

But anyhow, my point was not to do a one to one comparison. My point was to mock your religious "anti-vax" label, which you've been taught to parrot by the mainstream at least once per post.

You are anti-vaxer because you post misinformation, or should I say lies, about the vaccine, and when we correct you, you turn to strawman and other logical fallacies to divert the subject.

[Irreligious Atheist]

Perfectly safe is an impossible standard. Once again IA proves he can't argue worth a damn.

For the record, just looked up the number of side effects from COVID jabs from VAERS again, this time sorted by manufacturer.



As of March 13 (admittedly 9 days after the VAERS data is from), 328507974 doses of the Pfizer vaccine were given in the US.

Odds of a side effect worth noting: 1 in 988.
Odds of a severe side effect: 1 in 7203.


And for the record, I decided to compare that to the odds of getting in a car crash. I didn’t find stats for that directly, but I did find that esurance estimated 1 in 366 odds for getting in a car crash per 1000 miles. Multiply that by the average American driving 14,263 miles per year, I got odds of 3.897%. Just a bit less than 1 in 25 every year. Yearly odds of dying in a car crash? For 2020, it was 1 in 7782 (note: to access, click "data table", then "download table," and there should be an option to view it as a web page). Which is only 8% lower than the odds of getting a severe side effect from the Pfizer vaccine.

TL;DR: The odds of getting a severe side effect from the Pfizer vaccine (which may or may not actually be from the vaccine) are slightly higher than the odds of dying in a car crash in a given year.

And what are the odds of a healthy child dying of Omicron? Practically zero.

[The Architect Of Fate]

No one cares nutter 

Just take the L already and stop embarrassing yourself 

[Irreligious Atheist]

But anyhow, my point was not to do a one to one comparison. My point was to mock your religious "anti-vax" label, which you've been taught to parrot by the mainstream at least once per post.

You are anti-vaxer because you post misinformation, or should I say lies, about the vaccine, and when we correct you, you turn to strawman and other logical fallacies to divert the subject.

Jesus was a good choice for your avatar. Fitting.

[The Architect Of Fate]

But anyhow, my point was not to do a one to one comparison. My point was to mock your religious "anti-vax" label, which you've been taught to parrot by the mainstream at least once per post.

You are anti-vaxer because you post misinformation, or should I say lies, about the vaccine, and when we correct you, you turn to strawman and other logical fallacies to divert the subject.

Ironically he accuses us of parroting when his line above is whatever nutter and loon online accuse their detractors of being. Projection much 

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You have lost IA every idiotic argument you have employed has soundly dismantled and you made to look like an unhinged kook preserve what little dignity you have and piss off