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Names of places in Croatia
RE: Names of places in Croatia
Everything that he wants to talk about in his theory™ is trivial. The only interesting thing about the whole bit is the one thing he's learned not to say, lol.
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RE: Names of places in Croatia
(July 21, 2023 at 5:17 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(July 21, 2023 at 5:00 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: Don't you think that, to an experiment, you should respond with an experiment, rather than with speculation? I made an actual experiment, and neuralbeans is responding with nothing but speculation.

No. Place names in Croatia is a trivial topic. It isn’t incumbent upon other people to try to replicate your results. This isn’t cold fusion, ffs.

Boru

I don't understand. Look, if somebody says "I think your experiment is flawed because the collision entropy of the nouns in the Croatian language is significantly lower than the collision entropy of all the words in the Aspell dictionary.", isn't the burden of proof on him, rather than on me?
RE: Names of places in Croatia
(July 22, 2023 at 12:46 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Everything that he wants to talk about in his theory™ is trivial. The only interesting thing about the whole bit is the one thing he's learned not to say, lol.

Well, I am talking about the things I am most certain about, namely, that this k-r pattern in Croatian river names cannot be due to chance. I have a p-value for that: it's somewhere between 1/300 and 1/17. I have no idea how I would calculate the p-value for the names related to Vukovar Massacre being ironic (symbolic) and suggesting the event is mythological.
RE: Names of places in Croatia
(July 22, 2023 at 3:10 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(July 21, 2023 at 5:17 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No. Place names in Croatia is a trivial topic. It isn’t incumbent upon other people to try to replicate your results. This isn’t cold fusion, ffs.

Boru

I don't understand. Look, if somebody says "I think your experiment is flawed because the collision entropy of the nouns in the Croatian language is significantly lower than the collision entropy of all the words in the Aspell dictionary.", isn't the burden of proof on him, rather than on me?

But that's not what neuralbeans told you. You quoted him as saying:

Quote:"Maybe the collision entropy of the nouns in the Croatian language is a lot lower than the collision entropy of all the words in the Aspell word-list for the Croatian language. Have you checked that? Toponyms are nouns, and you should be comparing them to other nouns, and not to all the words in the Aspell word-list.".

He's offering a suggestion for something you should look into, not making a positive claim. The burden of proof is always and forever on the person making a positive claim (you) and not on the person pointing out an issue with your methodology (neuralbeans).

Boru
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RE: Names of places in Croatia
Reginald.

I feel Reginald would be a good name for some place in Croatia.

Or Shirley, if it's a girl-place.

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RE: Names of places in Croatia
(July 22, 2023 at 4:57 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: Reginald.

I feel Reginald would be a good name for some place in Croatia.

Or Shirley, if it's a girl-place.

True, but 'The P-Value For The K-R Pattern In Croatian River Names' would be an awful name for a band.

Boru
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RE: Names of places in Croatia
(July 22, 2023 at 4:59 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(July 22, 2023 at 4:57 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: Reginald.

I feel Reginald would be a good name for some place in Croatia.

Or Shirley, if it's a girl-place.

True, but 'The P-Value For The K-R Pattern In Croatian River Names' would be an awful name for a band.

Boru

Yeah.

Something with more...

...ooomph!

"Krap Croation Rivers"?

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
RE: Names of places in Croatia
(July 22, 2023 at 4:53 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(July 22, 2023 at 3:10 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: I don't understand. Look, if somebody says "I think your experiment is flawed because the collision entropy of the nouns in the Croatian language is significantly lower than the collision entropy of all the words in the Aspell dictionary.", isn't the burden of proof on him, rather than on me?

But that's not what neuralbeans told you. You quoted him as saying:

Quote:"Maybe the collision entropy of the nouns in the Croatian language is a lot lower than the collision entropy of all the words in the Aspell word-list for the Croatian language. Have you checked that? Toponyms are nouns, and you should be comparing them to other nouns, and not to all the words in the Aspell word-list.".

He's offering a suggestion for something you should look into, not making a positive claim. The burden of proof is always and forever on the person making a positive claim (you) and not on the person pointing out an issue with your methodology (neuralbeans).

Boru

As far as I understand it, the burden of proof is on the person making a positive claim all until he gives some proof. Once he gives some proof, the burden of proof shifts to the person claiming the proof is flawed. Think of The Mad Revisionists, the conspiracy theorists who claim the Moon doesn't exist. The burden of proof is obviously on them, because we have a proof that the Moon exists. That proof is that we see the Moon. They claim that proof is flawed, because perhaps the Moon is a hologram projected on some giant balloon, so the burden of proof is on them.
RE: Names of places in Croatia
(July 22, 2023 at 5:02 am)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(July 22, 2023 at 4:59 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: True, but 'The P-Value For The K-R Pattern In Croatian River Names' would be an awful name for a band.

Boru

Yeah.

Something with more...

...ooomph!

"Krap Croation Rivers"?

Well, there is a river in north-west Croatia named "Krapina". Mainstream linguistics considers that name to come from the Proto-Slavic word "korpъ" (carp fish). However, I think it is Illyrian in origin, that the Illyrian name was something like "Karpona", or, less likely, something like "Kurrippuppona".
RE: Names of places in Croatia
(July 22, 2023 at 9:06 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(July 22, 2023 at 4:53 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But that's not what neuralbeans told you. You quoted him as saying:


He's offering a suggestion for something you should look into, not making a positive claim. The burden of proof is always and forever on the person making a positive claim (you) and not on the person pointing out an issue with your methodology (neuralbeans).

Boru

As far as I understand it, the burden of proof is on the person making a positive claim all until he gives some proof. Once he gives some proof, the burden of proof shifts to the person claiming the proof is flawed. Think of The Mad Revisionists, the conspiracy theorists who claim the Moon doesn't exist. The burden of proof is obviously on them, because we have a proof that the Moon exists. That proof is that we see the Moon. They claim that proof is flawed, because perhaps the Moon is a hologram projected on some giant balloon, so the burden of proof is on them.

I like how you preface so many of your posts with, ‘As far as I understand it…’ and then proceed at a breakneck pace to demonstrate that you don’t understand it at all.

Boru
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