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[split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 6, 2022 at 11:51 am)The L Wrote: Stupidity is dangerous and, thus, stupid people are dangerous, and, thus, most company is dangerous.

And yet, narcissism is a type of stupidity. It is not a sign of genius, but a delusion.

But I do agree that one should live the life they want, as long as they don't actively harm others in doing so. So you keep doing you, man. And hopefully for Ahri, they will be able to get out of their current place eventually for their own peace.
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
There are always a few people who are lucky enough not to be slaves. I don't think these people are under any obligation to free the slaves. Life is unfair in many ways, this is just one more way life is unfair. Not my problem. I'm fine being better than other people, just as most people are fine with suffering.

I mean......if God had wanted me to teach people a better way, I must say, I'm not really interested. I am qualified, but that's not the point. I just don't want to do it. I think God seriously messed up when He assumed I would want to be some paragon of innocence and morality. I don't feel as if I owe anybody anything. I don't consider people my "fellow humans", they're just people. If for any reason they exist at all, it's to be exploited. What is God going to do about it? He has allowed me to suffer so much, He really doesn't have room to talk.
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 6, 2022 at 11:49 am)Ahriman Wrote: [...]

I think most people are OK with being slaves (or at least, OK enough to not do anything about it) just as long as their "betters" grant them some kind of superficial freedom. But most people's lives aren't real freedom, and those of us (i.e. me) who want to live lives of true freedom are severely limited in what we can do by the majority opinion of things, which is that, it's OK (or even good/noble/cool etc.) to be a slave. Most people are fucking clueless. I wish I could live on some other planet, away from the idiots.

It's always strange to hear people boast about freedom in America, which often amounts to the freedom one has to either work a job or die in the gutter. When "freedom" amounts to one choice vs. homeless hopeless death, it's really slavery.

There are other levels of unfreedom, of course, and I think you're alluding to these too. Ideological unfreedom comes from accepting all the propaganda about how we ought to live.

Then there's various kinds of unfreedom that aren't imposed by outside power. Like if a person is addicted to alcohol, that person isn't free to choose -- he'd most likely prefer to be free of his addiction, but he is stuck. An OCD person might like to be free of his obsession. 

This leads to some various fairly tricky diagnoses. There are cases where it's hard to tell whether a person's quirky traits are genuine choices or habits he'd be better off free from -- and would choose to be free from if he could. This is complicated by the fact that people are good at finding justifications for doing the things that they are impelled to do. It's often hard to tell whether a person honestly chooses to be a certain way (which would be freedom) or is that way because of some fixation, weakness, or other compelling factor (which would be slavery). 

Obviously people should be free to live as they wish, in a much wider diversity than the scolding people generally approve of. It's just hard, from the outside, to tell whether their choices are truly free or the result of complexes, fears, or other slave-making factors.
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
Even if I am a slave, I am free to choose.......maybe someday I can be totally free, but not today, not today.......
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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And deeper down the rabbit hole we go.
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My kids also piss and moan about washing dishes.
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 6, 2022 at 6:44 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: My kids also piss and moan about washing dishes.
Doing chores sucks so much. I can't imagine anyone genuinely doens't mind doing them.
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 6, 2022 at 6:51 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(March 6, 2022 at 6:44 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: My kids also piss and moan about washing dishes.
Doing chores sucks so much. I can't imagine anyone genuinely doens't mind doing them.

If it helps, I’m starting to agree that your parents failed. Not their fault, but a failure is a failure.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 6, 2022 at 7:18 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 6, 2022 at 6:51 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Doing chores sucks so much. I can't imagine anyone genuinely doens't mind doing them.

If it helps, I’m starting to agree that your parents failed. Not their fault, but a failure is a failure.

Boru
What's ironic is that any other parents would've been even worse.
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 6, 2022 at 6:51 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Doing chores sucks so much. I can't imagine anyone genuinely doens't mind doing them.

It gives me a satisfying feeling to have done them. Actually doing them is not "fun." 

Quote:What's ironic is that any other parents would've been even worse.

Freud says that success as a parent is impossible. There are built-in contradictions that guarantee failure. 

Some do better than others, of course.
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