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RE: One Russia, communists, liberal Democrats, socialist Democrats
April 26, 2022 at 3:49 pm
(April 26, 2022 at 1:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (April 26, 2022 at 12:24 pm)Interaktive Wrote: Truth or not? One Russia, communists, liberal Democrats, socialist Democrats
Theater or truth politics?
How do you think?
I think, that gosduma is theater
If you’re saying what I think you’re saying - that there’s a spectrum of political beliefs in Russia - I agree completely. No place is monolithic.
I have no idea what ‘godsuma’ means.
Boru The Gosduma is the lower house of the Russian Federation Assembly.
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RE: One Russia, communists, liberal Democrats, socialist Democrats
April 26, 2022 at 4:28 pm
(April 26, 2022 at 3:38 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: So you did notice it the first time.
I notice all sorts of things.
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RE: One Russia, communists, liberal Democrats, socialist Democrats
April 26, 2022 at 4:58 pm
Just because a guy's English skills ain't fluent is no reason to roast him. His point was pretty clear even if his English isn't great, but if it ain't his first language, maybe cut him some slack.
I personally think Russian democracy is theater and not fact, given Putin's control of the Duma through his party apparatus.
(April 26, 2022 at 1:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (April 26, 2022 at 12:24 pm)Interaktive Wrote: Truth or not? One Russia, communists, liberal Democrats, socialist Democrats
Theater or truth politics?
How do you think?
I think, that gosduma is theater
If you’re saying what I think you’re saying - that there’s a spectrum of political beliefs in Russia - I agree completely. No place is monolithic.
I have no idea what ‘godsuma’ means.
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It's referring to the Russian Duma, or parliament.
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RE: One Russia, communists, liberal Democrats, socialist Democrats
April 26, 2022 at 5:10 pm
There is no Russian democracy. It has highly managed and ineffectual representation that window dresses for a narrow oligarchic rule.
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RE: One Russia, communists, liberal Democrats, socialist Democrats
April 26, 2022 at 6:02 pm
(April 26, 2022 at 1:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (April 26, 2022 at 12:24 pm)Interaktive Wrote: Truth or not? One Russia, communists, liberal Democrats, socialist Democrats
Theater or truth politics?
How do you think?
I think, that gosduma is theater
If you’re saying what I think you’re saying - that there’s a spectrum of political beliefs in Russia - I agree completely. No place is monolithic.
I have no idea what ‘godsuma’ means.
Boru
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RE: One Russia, communists, liberal Democrats, socialist Democrats
April 27, 2022 at 6:29 am
I have elementary or pre intermediate level of English
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RE: One Russia, communists, liberal Democrats, socialist Democrats
April 27, 2022 at 9:30 am
(This post was last modified: April 27, 2022 at 9:44 am by Anomalocaris.)
(April 26, 2022 at 12:24 pm)Interaktive Wrote: Truth or not? One Russia, communists, liberal Democrats, socialist Democrats
Theater or truth politics?
How do you think?
I think, that gosduma is theater
one russia, if that means united russia, is not exactly directly comparable to the other three. The other three, if i understand it, are ideological political fractions which appeals to particular political ideology, or reflect nostalgia for conditions prevailing when a particular ideology was said to be the national ideology.
United russia is political chimera, not a ideological fraction. It is an ad hoc political coalition designed to help secure dominant majority in the duma in the service of the ruling oligarchy. it doesn’t appeal to any single internally coherent political ideology, rather it adopts or co-opts what appeals in the policies and measures advocated by many different and politically seemingly muturally incompatible ideologies. For example it appeals to nostalgia about the greatness of an atheistic communist past under the USSR, while ostentatiously advocating enlargement of the role of eastern orthodox church in Russian life, while appealing to hard core right wing ethnocentrism and racialism.
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April 27, 2022 at 11:43 am
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(April 26, 2022 at 3:38 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: So you did notice it the first time.
I did as well... BUt that still doesn't make you the worst Pirate any one's ever heard of either.
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RE: One Russia, communists, liberal Democrats, socialist Democrats
April 27, 2022 at 2:53 pm
(April 27, 2022 at 9:30 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: (April 26, 2022 at 12:24 pm)Interaktive Wrote: Truth or not? One Russia, communists, liberal Democrats, socialist Democrats
Theater or truth politics?
How do you think?
I think, that gosduma is theater
one russia, if that means united russia, is not exactly directly comparable to the other three. The other three, if i understand it, are ideological political fractions which appeals to particular political ideology, or reflect nostalgia for conditions prevailing when a particular ideology was said to be the national ideology.
United russia is political chimera, not a ideological fraction. It is an ad hoc political coalition designed to help secure dominant majority in the duma in the service of the ruling oligarchy. it doesn’t appeal to any single internally coherent political ideology, rather it adopts or co-opts what appeals in the policies and measures advocated by many different and politically seemingly muturally incompatible ideologies. For example it appeals to nostalgia about the greatness of an atheistic communist past under the USSR, while ostentatiously advocating enlargement of the role of eastern orthodox church in Russian life, while appealing to hard core right wing ethnocentrism and racialism.
I was looking online, and the Communist Party is still active in Russia, around 25% representation. Difficulty was trying to figure out how United Russia was at odds with the communists. Do they even get along?
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RE: One Russia, communists, liberal Democrats, socialist Democrats
April 27, 2022 at 8:44 pm
I think the communist party of Russia is still centered around the radical left wing political ideology of early USSR, and is a relatively large party because the USSR did make a lot of true, if aging, believers and its left wing ideology does appeal to a substantial number of the young. They are a relatively resource poor grass root political fraction.
I think United Russia tolerates them because being 2 or 3rd largest party in the Duma they keep seats out of the hands of other parties, while their prospects for gaining much more seats is not good, so they don’t constitute a serious threat to the United Russia. The United Russia party also periodically pay enough homage to the USSR that the communists don’t quibble with the policies of the United Russia on most fronts, attacking them only for corruption. And ironically, lack of openness.
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