[Quranic reflection]: The Big Bang theory in the Quran.

[Angrboda]

This is the same idiot who didn't believe that plasma was physical. And he's supposed to know if the Quran matches the scientific facts? He'd have to know the scientific facts in order to determine that, which he doesn't.

[Jackie]

There are very few verses in scriptures that can't be shoehorned into a scientific theory.  Scriptures are notoriously vague and generally useless for practical applications of the things they allegedly discovered.

I'm amused that religious people continue to play this game - it actually undermines their position.  Think of it this way:  A scientist (usually of a different belief, or none) has succeeded in explaining a natural principle better than a god.  

There are no verses or holy writings of antiquity worldwide, that had any modern scientific understanding. 

Because, like you said, they are vague, and I would add to that ambiguous. 

It would be like if I pointed to the sky and said, "The sky is blue". Anyone can do that, but nobody back then had any knowledge that light was not in any object, but in the light waves the sun produces, which bounce off the planet's surface giving the sky the appearance of being blue. But funny that, it seems translucent at night.

[Jehanne]

[WinterHold]

@WinterHold

Read my text again and again: scientists' knowledge stop at the explosion of the Singularity; nobody knows what came before the Singularity:

‘Before the Singularity’ is a semantically null statement. It’s like asking ‘What colour is Tuesday?’ or ‘What does blue taste like?’

Boru

Since the Singularity itself was there; there are 2 pathways to what came before it:

1-The scientific path that says : "??",not known.
2-The theistic path that attributes the creation of the singularity to a deity.

Muslims see that Allah is the maker of the Singularity and the architect of the universe. The evidence can be seen clearly in the Quranic verse:

Sura 21, The Quran:


https://quran.com/21?startingVerse=30&tr...C207%2C149

(30) Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were ˹once˺ one mass then We split them apart?1 And We created from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?

[Anomalocaris]

muslims have no clue what singularity is or where it might have been until those who are smart enough not to attribute anything to allah came to the conclusion that such an thing would be what theories with know flaws would predict if they were stretched beyond the scope in which they were known to perform satisfactorily.

When those smart enough to know when theory has room for improvement improve their theories, dipshit disgraces to monkey kind like you would say muslims, who basically know nothing, alway knew that the new theory would predict, even if your idiot words right in this thread proved conclusively that you don’t.

[Jehanne]

@WinterHold


‘Before the Singularity’ is a semantically null statement. It’s like asking ‘What colour is Tuesday?’ or ‘What does blue taste like?’

Boru

Since the Singularity itself was there; there are 2 pathways to what came before it:

1-The scientific path that says : "??",not known.
2-The theistic path that attributes the creation of the singularity to a deity.

Muslims see that Allah is the maker of the Singularity and the architect of the universe. The evidence can be seen clearly in the Quranic verse:

Sura 21, The Quran:


https://quran.com/21?startingVerse=30&tr...C207%2C149

(30) Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were ˹once˺ one mass then We split them apart?1 And We created from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?

Singularities do not exist physically; they are mathematical abstractions.

[Ranjr]

There was no Earth until billions of years after the big bang, with billions and billions of worlds and events coming and going in between.  So no.  That passage is nonsense.

It's no revelation living things are made of water, since we dry up and die without it.  What about the 12% carbon in people?  That would be something.  But.  Right.  Silence.

[WinterHold]

[WinterHold]

[HappySkeptic]