Misconceptions about the Bible

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You mean after all the white people?

Huggy has a habit of miraculously showing up whenever slavery or racism are mentioned

Yeah, I got that. I don't know anything about Huggy or anyone else here, but I've noticed that it seems to be current to have ideological issues with certain subject matter that isn't necessarily current. And that's cool, but I have to examine it for what it is. Whatever it is. And where it's coming from tells me a lot about that.

[Jehanne]

Dragonset is a troll, or, a theist here to proselytize. No atheist could be this dumb.

[arewethereyet]

Dragonset is a troll, or, a theist here to proselytize.  No atheist could be this dumb.

It's the slow burn.  Just watching it pick up speed.

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Well, gee, go to graduate school, get your PhD, and set the Academy straight.  

No. That would mean I have to subscribe to a specific school of thought. Tradition. Which I've already said, isn't necessarily accurate. Besides, why would I want to blow 200k on a PhD when I can get the same thing for $1.50 in late charges at the Public Library? That's from an old movie. Then there's this new thing for book learnin' 'n such called the Internet . . . but see, you can do a quick qoo-goo search on what the experts say easy enough, the trick is understanding what they say. And testing it. 

So, for example, if go to Bible Hub and do a translation comparison on Isaiah 14:12 you would find that some translations read shining one, morning star, day star and others read Lucifer. All kinds of confusion has been caused by the uninformed assumption that Lucifer is a name for Satan. Go back to verse 4 and it becomes clear that it isn't a reference to Satan but to Nebuchadnezzar as representing the Babylonian dynasty. Even scholars can tell you that. I would think. I would hope. But, who is this Satan anyway? Satan is a Hebrew word meaning adversary. It's applied first in scripture to a righteous angel who stands in opposition of Balaam's dumb ass. Dumb means can't talk. Ass means, in this particular instance, a donkey. The Hebrew word satan is also applied to men. Just like the Hebrew el (god) and its variations are applied to men. If either have the definite article ha (ha Satan, ha El) they apply to Satan or God respectively. 

What was I talking about? Oh, yeah . . . Lucifer. It's a Hebrew word meaning light bearer. Think luciferases, which are enzymes that use a substrate called luciferin, along with oxygen and ATP, in an energetic process that produces light. Uh, fireflies, Bill Gates vaccine tattoo. The Greek is, uh, oh, what the hell is the Greek? Phoshoros? means the same thing. The terms are applied to Jesus, Nebuchadnezzar, and Satan. As a metaphoric application to specific individuals who are heralds of a new day. Morning star? Get it? 

Okay, back to Bible Hub. Some translate from the Latin (lucifer) and some from the Greek (Phosophoros). From either the Latin Vulgate or the Greek Septuagint.  

The Hebrews believed in a flat Earth, inherenting their cosmology from the Sumerians.  Everyone knows this.

 
Is that right?! Fascinating! 

But, it's pretty vague and insubstantial, isn't it. What Hebrews? When? And besides, this thread is what the Bible says, not what the Hebrews in general said. Where does the Bible say the Earth is flat?  

The idea persisted throughout the New Testament all the way until the pre-Nicene fathers:

Again. Not really relevant, is it? 

Later on when Christian scholars began to have more conduct with the Greeks did the idea of a flat Earth become more unfashionable. 

 
When was that? The influence of Alexander the Great, with Greek philosophy, on Jewish thinking began in earnest after his conquest of his neck of the woods after 332 BCE. The same with Christianity, in earnest, around 325 CE. Of course, that isn't to say that those influences didn't exist prior to that time, just that they kicked it up a notch or two then. So, we go circle back to what the Bible says. 

Later on when Christian scholars began to have more conduct with the Greeks did the idea of a flat Earth become more unfashionable.

I don't doubt it. Christian crosses, the cross being a Roman phallic symbol, wasn't popular until after Constantine. Christmas wasn't popular with "Christians" until after Dickens. See what you're doing? You have at least some idea of the transmogrification of Christian theology but that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the Bible.

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Dragonset is a troll, or, a theist here to proselytize.  No atheist could be this dumb.

We're not going to talk about the Bible, are we? I mean, seriously.

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Dragonset is a troll, or, a theist here to proselytize.  No atheist could be this dumb.

It's the slow burn.  Just watching it pick up speed.

There it is! See, you can be at least something resembling honest. Eventually. 

Makes you feel good don't it. Woke up, didn't you? Huh? Yeah. Burn 'em at the stake, huh? Or, in the parlance of our time, cancel 'em.

Fuck yeah!

I don't get that dopamine rush, do you? Never did. Don't much care for people or what they "think." Never have. I'm bored. You want to see a fast burn? I'm a sock puppet for Pathway Machine and Theoretical Skeptic. I promised I would come back before the place was pronounced dead. So, well, that's it, then. We're done.

[Jehanne]

Dragonset is a troll, or, a theist here to proselytize.  No atheist could be this dumb.

Let's see, troll . . . troll . . . someone who knows what they are talking about and so must be labeled as such in order to justify silencing when you can't defend your baseless assertions? I am not! Yet. Been silenced.

We're not going to talk about the Bible, are we? I mean, seriously.

You act like the Bible is some monolithic document (like the US Constitution), and, it's not. Only Christian evangelicals see the Bible as such, some divinely inspired, even inerrant, text, from Genesis through Revelation; no modern scholar, even believers, would defend such a notion.

As for spending $150K on a PhD, once again, you betray yourself with such words. If you have excellent grades with excellent test scores and are willing to impress a graduate admissions committee with your devotion, passion and (very) hard work, there is a University out there who will provide housing, (some) healthcare and a modest monetary stipend to support you completely in the completion of your terminal degree.

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You act like the Bible is some monolithic document (like the US Constitution), and, it's not.  Only Christian evangelicals see the Bible as such, some divinely inspired, even inerrant, text, from Genesis through Revelation; no modern scholar, even believers, would defend such a notion.

I've clearly stated that the Bible isn't divinely inspired, inerrant text. So either way you condemn me, correct? 

As for spending $150K on a PhD, once again, you betray yourself with such words.  If you have excellent grades with excellent  test scores and are willing to impress a graduate admissions committee with your devotion, passion and (very) hard work, there is a University out there who will provide housing, (some) healthcare and a modest monetary stipend to support you completely in the completion of your terminal degree.

Fantastic. It's just not for me, at least not with the Bible. I don't care about religion. It's stupid.

[Nay_Sayer]

It's the slow burn.  Just watching it pick up speed.

There it is! See, you can be at least something resembling honest. Eventually. 

Makes you feel good don't it. Woke up, didn't you? Huh? Yeah. Burn 'em at the stake, huh? Or, in the parlance of our time, cancel 'em.

Fuck yeah!

I don't get that dopamine rush, do  you? Never did. Don't much care for people or what they "think." Never have. I'm bored. You want to see a fast burn? I'm a sock puppet for Pathway Machine and Theoretical Skeptic. I promised I would come back before the place was pronounced dead. So, well, that's it, then. We're done.

Feel better now that you've had your tantrum?

[The Architect Of Fate]

Let's see hyperbolic statements about being "silenced " Hi Deepend/Deepity/karmaify/freemind/ electrify/TheClearCleanStuff,.....