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RE: At what point is America no longer a safe place for me to live?
July 8, 2022 at 12:18 pm
It's kinda scary out there. I used to be pretty fearless and got into a lot of situations that could have turned out really bad.
I think for me, part of it is my age. I'm a bit old and not totally healthy to be out dealing with psychos at this point.
I did think about the fact that after reading the OP...I don't go anywhere after dark any more. It seems to have come along sort of naturally with the whole pandemic/stay home thing. About the only time I do venture out after dark is to watch a football game when my granddaughter is performing in the halftime events.
I can't really say that anyone is safe any more. Though some are obviously more at risk than others.
Were I younger, it would bother me more than it does. We've become a country of pissed off people who just don't give a damn about others...or so it seems.
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RE: At what point is America no longer a safe place for me to live?
July 8, 2022 at 4:42 pm
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2022 at 4:54 pm by Rev. Rye.)
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RE: At what point is America no longer a safe place for me to live?
July 8, 2022 at 4:47 pm
I don't feel safe going most places where large crowds gather, like the beach, movies, concerts, etc. I don't even feel safe in my own house anymore because of people with guns and no compunction about carrying and using them. I think we're probably at that point now.
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RE: At what point is America no longer a safe place for me to live?
July 8, 2022 at 5:34 pm
(July 8, 2022 at 4:42 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Like AWTY just said, there’s clearly going to be groups that are more clearly in danger than others (and it’s safe to assume that the farther you are from being a white, cisgender, straight, Christian man who supports Trump, the less safe you are), but I don’t think it’s really all that safe for anyone. I fit the white part, and the rest are not always outwardly visible, so I can pretend on the ones where I'm not and blend in. However, I have to admit that even for someone who looks like me, I thought on the 4th about this quite a bit. Covid has kept me indoors, but prior to that I would go see live bands at all sizes of venue several times a month, and I'm now questioning whether I'll be as willing going forward.
Granted, I never go out on the 4th specifically since it tends to be amateur drunk-driver night, but my daughter did. Before she left (and she, similarly white and reasonably able to blend in) I warned her to be careful since I suspected the violence of the day was not over with. Sadly, that was an easy prediction to make.
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July 8, 2022 at 7:51 pm
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RE: At what point is America no longer a safe place for me to live?
July 8, 2022 at 7:56 pm
I used to do work as an IT field technician (for over 3.5 years with over 1,000 jobs), which sometimes involved going to people's homes to do IT work (troubleshooting their computer, phone installs, etc.) At least half-a-dozen homes were diehard Trump supporters (Trump flag, FJB flag, giant Trump dolls, posters, buttons, etc.) To give credit where credit is due, these folks were some of the nicest and polite individuals whom I encountered in my work. On a few occasions I walked up to their front or back doors with more than a little trepidation, but once inside, things always went smoothly.
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RE: At what point is America no longer a safe place for me to live?
July 8, 2022 at 8:01 pm
(July 8, 2022 at 7:56 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I used to do work as an IT field technician (for over 3.5 years with over 1,000 jobs), which sometimes involved going to people's homes to do IT work (troubleshooting their computer, phone installs, etc.) At least half-a-dozen homes were diehard Trump supporters (Trump flag, FJB flag, giant Trump dolls, posters, buttons, etc.) To give credit where credit is due, these folks were some of the nicest and polite individuals whom I encountered in my work. On a few occasions I walked up to their front or back doors with more than a little trepidation, but once inside, things always went smoothly.
Yeah, it's always easy for them to hate immigrants when it's some vaguely defined, annonymous, Mexican monster who's stealing your job. Not so much when it's an actual person you meet.
It's always easy to hate trans women when they're these anonymous, random, big, hairy, manly, predatory people in a skirt. Not so easy when you actually meet me.
It's always easy to hate atheists when they're just some group that you've never actually met anyone from but you hear about all the damage they're doing. Not as easy when you meet and talk to an atheist.
It's so easy for them to hate groups of people but when they meet the individual people from those groups, they can always get along. They can't seem to acknowledge that those groups are made up of the many individuals that they've already met and get along with.
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RE: At what point is America no longer a safe place for me to live?
July 9, 2022 at 12:30 am
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RE: At what point is America no longer a safe place for me to live?
July 9, 2022 at 6:25 am
(July 8, 2022 at 4:47 pm)Mermaid Wrote: I don't feel safe going most places where large crowds gather, like the beach, movies, concerts, etc. I don't even feel safe in my own house anymore because of people with guns and no compunction about carrying and using them. I think we're probably at that point now.
exact reason I always carry a firearm everywhere I go..
Shit head xians only need to believe their god has whispered in their ear to kill to prove their loyalty.
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RE: At what point is America no longer a safe place for me to live?
July 9, 2022 at 8:59 am
My partner's parents are from Canada, she's started the process of claiming Canadian citizenship. I don't want to renounce my US citizenship but if she goes to live in Canada, I probably will too. I'm goiing to retire at 62 in a couple of years, the healthcare there would be a great benefit for both of us. I'll probably establish residency in a swing state and vote in the US midterms and presidential elections.
That said, I'm hopeful. We're in the worst timeline, but we were very close to having a second President Clinton. She would have gotten the SC justice pick Obama should have gotten, and would have gotten to replace RBG, giving the court a slight liberal majority. We're way off track from where we should be, but there's a limit to how much you can thwart the will of the majority. Belief in God is down to 81%. As Jehanne pointed out, literal belief in the Bible is down to around 20%. Christianists themselve are dirving people out of their religion with their extremism. Democrats now realize how important it is to secure the presidency to keep Republicans from appointing federal judges and SC justices.
I'm not optimistic that we can do more than hold the line in the midterms, but if we can get inflation back under control before the presidential election, I believe we can get enough Democrats and Independents and never Trumpers combined to keep the presidency and gain a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. And if we're lucky, Clarence Thomas will have a health issue that forces him to resign in time for Biden to replace him. If not, House Majority and a filibuster-proof Senate majority can raise the number of justices to the number of circuit courts, 13.
The USA CAN do better. With the numbers, Democrats can institute fair districting reforms, pass a federal law protecting abortion, and bolster safeguards for minorities. And without the numbers, we'll have no one to really blame but our own apathy.
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