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RE: Compulsory Voting
December 3, 2022 at 5:56 am
For those who object I remind you that if you don't vote someone else will.... 
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RE: Compulsory Voting
December 3, 2022 at 6:36 am
(December 3, 2022 at 5:13 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: What do you think about Michael Huemer's idea that voting, in most elections, is actually immoral? Most elections revolve about so many complex issues that it's impossible to be an informed voter there. And uninformed voting is as if some tourist asked you where the location of some restaurant is, and you, instead of admitting you don't know, make a guess: that's immoral.
I've never heard of Michael Huemer, but he appears (based solely on the above) to be an idiot.
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RE: Compulsory Voting
December 3, 2022 at 9:35 am
(December 3, 2022 at 6:36 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (December 3, 2022 at 5:13 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: What do you think about Michael Huemer's idea that voting, in most elections, is actually immoral? Most elections revolve about so many complex issues that it's impossible to be an informed voter there. And uninformed voting is as if some tourist asked you where the location of some restaurant is, and you, instead of admitting you don't know, make a guess: that's immoral.
I've never heard of Michael Huemer, but he appears (based solely on the above) to be an idiot.
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He is an anarcho-capitalist and a vegan philosopher. Why would he be an idiot? Things he says sound very wise to me.
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RE: Compulsory Voting
December 3, 2022 at 9:57 am
Dafuq does being vegan have to do with being a philosopher? Are sesame seeds involved?
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RE: Compulsory Voting
December 3, 2022 at 9:58 am
Compulsory??? Forcing ignorant people to vote? No thanks.
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RE: Compulsory Voting
December 3, 2022 at 10:46 am
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2022 at 10:50 am by FlatAssembler.)
(December 3, 2022 at 9:57 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Dafuq does being vegan have to do with being a philosopher? Are sesame seeds involved?
There are different arguments for veganism, not all of them having to do with health (nutritional science). Ethical veganism is a thing. Most ethicists today think it is morally bad to eat meat from mammals.
Other than that, there are environmental arguments for veganism. Essentially three of them: we would have more food if we were not giving all that grain to farmed animals, grass-fed cows emit a lot of methane, and factory farming the way it's done today leads to superbacteria.
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RE: Compulsory Voting
December 3, 2022 at 10:52 am
(December 3, 2022 at 10:46 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: (December 3, 2022 at 9:57 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Dafuq does being vegan have to do with being a philosopher? Are sesame seeds involved?
There are different arguments for veganism, not all of them having to do with health (nutritional science). Ethical veganism is a thing. Most ethicists today think it is morally bad to eat meat from mammals.
Other than that, there are environmental arguments for veganism. Essentially three of them: we would have more food if we were not giving all that grain to farmed animals, grass-fed cows emit a lot of methane, and factory farming the way it's done today leads to superbacteria.
Nah, eating meat is fine. It's good for you.
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RE: Compulsory Voting
December 3, 2022 at 11:15 am
The ethical argument for veganism is a really bad one.
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RE: Compulsory Voting
December 3, 2022 at 11:28 am
(December 3, 2022 at 11:15 am)Angrboda Wrote: The ethical argument for veganism is a really bad one.
Yes, it is. Humans evolved to eat meat. Meat is good for you. There is no logical reason to abstain from eating meat.
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RE: Compulsory Voting
December 3, 2022 at 11:32 am
(December 3, 2022 at 11:15 am)Angrboda Wrote: The ethical argument for veganism is a really bad one.
It goes like this: it's the scientific consensus (look up Cambridge Declaration of Consciousness) that many animals, including all the birds and mammals and perhaps even octopuses, have consciousness. So, if it is wrong to kill humans, it is also wrong to kill those animals, for similar reasons.
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