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**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: February 3, 2023 at 3:36 pm by The Grand Nudger.)

There are many different histories of it, because there were multiple instances of independent construction. You may believe, for example, that many of those instances were not independent, and that they were somehow influenced by a single literary tradition - but that gets dashed against the acknowledgement of meso-american myths to the same effect, as pointed out in my post immediately prior, in addition to appearing in your own prior to that.

You're asking a non-question with a no-shit answer...because you've filled your head with garbage.

**arewethereyet** · February 3, 2023 at 3:35 pm

There's an answer Justin wants. And he's not going to stop with his babbling till he gets it.

Look up Black nonbelievers and talk about the Aryan race. Wonder what pit this will land in.

**The Grand Nudger** · February 3, 2023 at 3:46 pm

Different aryans...or....you know, hopefully different aryans.

Justin Case · February 3, 2023 at 4:22 pm

(February 3, 2023 at 3:33 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You're asking a non-question with a no-shit answer...because you've filled your head with garbage.

That's it - I've had it with the stupidity level in this place, See ya.

**arewethereyet** · February 3, 2023 at 4:38 pm

Odds on how long before he returns with a new and wondrous insights?

I say within 12 hours.

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: February 3, 2023 at 4:46 pm by The Grand Nudger.)

Oh who knows, but I will say that the picture of religious development we were enjoying there just isn't all that uncommon. Alot of it, as I alluded to, hasd to do with the privilege that abrahamism has secured for itself right down to academia and how we conceptualize the past. We don't imagine that the poor tribals of nowheresville simply have to be linked, somehow, to the great civs and what became abrahamism, in order to believe in a single god or afterlives. They believe in gods and afterlives because of their native superstitions. For whatever reason, this answer does not satisfy us when considering our own (cultures) superstitions.

**brewer** · February 3, 2023 at 4:55 pm

(February 3, 2023 at 2:55 pm)Justin Case Wrote:
(February 3, 2023 at 2:41 pm)Angrboda Wrote: What specific belief that 'we' ostensibly have is it that you're referring to here?

It's not about a "belief" - it's about an explanation. In other words, if a believer asks WHY the person DOESN'T believe, the answer should incorporate as much hard data as possible.

How about 'supply me with concrete evidence of a god(s) and I'll consider it'. No hard data needed.

**Silver** · (This post was last modified: February 3, 2023 at 9:56 pm by Silver.)

(February 3, 2023 at 2:55 pm)Justin Case Wrote: It's not about a "belief" - it's about an explanation. In other words, if a believer asks WHY the person DOESN'T believe, the answer should incorporate as much hard data as possible.

Umm, no. The only response required is, There is zero evidence for the existence of a deity.

Theists think we need to prove to them a deity does not exist. But they are wrong, as they usually are.

Angrboda · February 4, 2023 at 12:16 am

(February 3, 2023 at 4:22 pm)Justin Case Wrote:
(February 3, 2023 at 3:33 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You're asking a non-question with a no-shit answer...because you've filled your head with garbage.

That's it - I've had it with the stupidity level in this place, See ya.

**Nay_Sayer** · February 4, 2023 at 1:15 am

(February 3, 2023 at 4:22 pm)Justin Case Wrote:
(February 3, 2023 at 3:33 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You're asking a non-question with a no-shit answer...because you've filled your head with garbage.

That's it - I've had it with the stupidity level in this place, See ya.

And he never returned, honest!

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