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A Rebellious People
#21
RE: A Rebellious People
(June 21, 2023 at 8:35 am)Authari Wrote:
(June 21, 2023 at 8:32 am)Helios Wrote: Has not stopped him from killing them. So those passages are empty. Also, I don't want babies murdered I do want women to have reproductive autonomy. Thou that tragically results in the death of the fetus.

Women already have reproductive autonomy by the ability to choose to have sex. Also God does not kill babies or anyone for that matter, stop blaming acts of nature on God, or worse acts of human beings who have such black souls.

Tell that to the first born of Egypt.

Even your book of myths calls you a liar.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#22
RE: A Rebellious People
(June 21, 2023 at 8:35 am)Authari Wrote: stop blaming acts of nature on God,
Ill bite:
Who created nature the way it works?
Are humans part of nature?
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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#23
RE: A Rebellious People
(June 21, 2023 at 12:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 21, 2023 at 9:28 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Fuck you.

Well put.

Boru

Expert training. Four years* of shoveling horseshit for a one-legged Marine (including "language" lessons) paid off when I joined up. (USN, not crazy enough for Uncle Sam's Misguided Children.)

OP, there were gods on my battlefields, my Browning M2 .50 caliber machine guns. Power of life and death. I decided if someone lived or not. Casually, no time most times to dither.
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#24
RE: A Rebellious People
(June 21, 2023 at 8:46 am)Helios Wrote:
Quote:Women already have reproductive autonomy by the ability to choose to have sex. Also God does not kill babies or anyone for that matter, stop blaming acts of nature on God, or worse acts of human beings who have such black souls
A women's sexual freedom is totally separate from her reproductive freedom. She has every right to have sex and control whether or not she remains pregnant. Your opinion is outright draconian. Nope if god sits back and does nothing and babies die then he is as guilty as guilty can be also. Also, no acts justify Noah's flood. There is no one to blame but god he cannot be in charge of everything and in control of everything and responsible for the state of everything and bare no blame. You can't have it both ways.

It is not actually, a women's sexual promiscuity solely determines whether or not she will have an abortion, a right that should not be given to her. That we should give mothers the option to kill their own children to avoid the responsibility of the product of their previous intercourse because they sought the pleasures of the flesh, it was the same in the Ancient days as it is today, prostitutes would throw their babies in cisterns in infanticide because sex was their profession. Sowing according to the Flesh reaped death 2,000 years ago just as much as it reaps death today. I ask you how often does a married couple, who sow according to the Spirit have abortions? You would rather allow one the ability to kill an innocent human being rather than take a shred, no an INKLING of responsibility for their own actions? What kind of world do you believe to be one free from Sin and Vice? One where a mother who should be known as a kind nurturing woman, should be turned into nothing more than a depraved whore who would take the life of her own child to get rid of the trace of her shamefulness?

And don't you dare bring up the 'incidents of rape' we are not talking about them, the Laws of Nature Ordained by God were set in order since before time began, those who are in the unfortunate way of planetary or interstellar phenomenon happened just to be in the wrong spot at the wrong time. Life is a chance you take on yourself to provide a future for those who will come after you, and if I was raising a child sir, I would want God to reflect myself, a loving Father, that way when I am gone my child may know my Spirit is always guiding him after I and God become united as all do when they perish.

God forbid it should ever be deemed acceptable that a mother should take the life of her child. Yet this is what you advocate.
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#25
RE: A Rebellious People
Yeah, let's not talk about rape. Let's just not bring that into the discussion. 'Cause it doesn't fit the narrative.
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#26
RE: A Rebellious People
(June 21, 2023 at 5:14 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Yeah, let's not talk about rape.  Let's just not bring that into the discussion.  'Cause it doesn't fit the narrative.

Alright lets talk about it then, if you executed all the rapists you wouldn't really have a problem with rape to much to concern yourself over, but instead you allow evil to fester and thrive among themselves. Little filthy demons that prey on the innocence of women and children.
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#27
RE: A Rebellious People
How are you going to execute the rapists before they commit a rape that results in pregnancy?
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#28
RE: A Rebellious People
(June 21, 2023 at 5:24 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: How are you going to execute the rapists before they commit a rape that results in pregnancy?

If people who would normally commit these actions would know that they would be executed when they were caught, many of them would simply never do the crime to begin with, its an effective method that works to prevent heinous crime. Naturally it won't stop ALL of them, but it will stop MOST of them. Even then, I think that the unborn child should be let alone, why not let at least one blessing arise from a tragedy? Even if the mother does not want to keep the child, what a greater show of respect it is to life to let such a child live and not let the actions of the rapist father in this case spell his own demise.
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#29
RE: A Rebellious People
Quote:It is not actually, a women's sexual promiscuity solely determines whether or not she will have an abortion,a right that should not be given to her.
 It actually is as her right to sexual freedom is divorced from her right to reproductive freedom. She has the right to both. 



Quote:That we should give mothers the option to kill their own children to avoid the responsibility of the product of their previous intercourse because they sought the pleasures of the flesh,
That we should give women the option to decide to take responsibility and end their own pregnancy as a result of them engaging in their right to sexual freedom is based. 



Quote: it was the same in the Ancient days as it is today, prostitutes would throw their babies in cisterns in infanticide because sex was their profession.
It isn't the same as throwing babies into cisterns is not the same as removing an unwanted organism living inside their body where it has no business being.



Quote: Sowing according to the Flesh reaped death 2,000 years ago just as much as it reaps death today.

Nope 


Quote: I ask you how often does a married couple, who sow according to the Spirit have abortions? 
I imagine more often than you think. But it doesn't matter if they do or don't it changes nothing. 



Quote:You would rather allow one the ability to kill an innocent human being rather than take a shred, no an INKLING of responsibility for their own actions? 
The woman has the right to remove an unwanted organism from her body and whether it's innocent or not makes no difference to that fact. And abortion is taking responsibility for one's own actions. 



Quote:What kind of world do you believe to be one free from Sin and Vice? One where a mother who should be known as a kind nurturing woman, should be turned into nothing more than a depraved whore who would take the life of her own child to get rid of the trace of her shamefulness?
A woman is whatever and whoever they choose to be and there is nothing depraved or shameful about taking responsibility for one's own body and removing what they deem should not be there. 



Quote:And don't you dare bring up the 'incidents of rape' we are not talking about them
You can ignore them if you want they are relevant to this subject. Your denial does not change that. 



Quote: the Laws of Nature Ordained by God were set in order since before time began, those who are in the unfortunate way of planetary or interstellar phenomenon happened just to be in the wrong spot at the wrong time. Life is a chance you take on yourself to provide a future for those who will come after you, and if I was raising a child sir, I would want God to reflect myself, a loving Father, that way when I am gone my child may know my Spirit is always guiding him after I and God become united as all do when they perish.
So pointless blather that avoids his responsibility Hehe



Quote:God forbid it should ever be deemed acceptable that a mother should take the life of her child. Yet this is what you advocate.
It already is acceptable. A woman gets to decide if she stays pregnant or not and gets to decide if the fetus gets to live in her body or not.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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#30
RE: A Rebellious People
Quote:Alright lets talk about it then, if you executed all the rapists you wouldn't really have a problem with rape to much to concern yourself over, but instead you allow evil to fester and thrive among themselves. Little filthy demons that prey on the innocence of women and children.
Executing rapists is just solving one evil with another.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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