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My Revelation
#81
RE: My Revelation
Quote:The Jewish law was specifically for the Israelites. 

I repeat there is nothing in the new testament that contradicts it nor does the wording mean only  Israelites


Quote:Paul made it clear in Romans that we are no longer under the old Jewish law.
No, he didn't at least not completely. 

But nice try. Don't blame me that you don't like the ugly bits of your holy book and are looking for an out
"Change was inevitable"


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#82
RE: My Revelation
(July 18, 2023 at 3:26 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(July 18, 2023 at 3:11 pm)Lek Wrote: Pretty clear. He's telling the Israelites to put practicing homosexual men to death. Why?  I'm don't know. I'm not under the old testament law and I certainly don't want to execute homosexuals for sleeping together. I don't even want to make it illegal. We can't legislate morality.

But you are under *some* of the OT law, right. 
In Matthew, Jesus told the young man who asked him what he had to do to gain eternal life. 
"Keep the commandments". 
He also never said anything about a "new law" or new covenant.
In fact he specifically said there would be no new covenant.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
Matthew 5:17-18 Paul made up the "new covenant".

You cherry pick what you want from the OT, and what you don't. 

There were no "homosexuals" in the OT. The concept (of orientation) didn't arise until the 19th Century. 
What you're doing has a name. You're committing "Presentism". It's a "thing" in History. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentism..._analysis)
Jesus fulfilled the law, which no one else could do. The whole idea of the old law was to demonstrate that we were unable to follow it. How many fathers killed their sons for being disobedient? The law demonstrated that we needed a savior. Jesus summed up the law with two commandments. "love God above all and love your neighbor as yourself".
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#83
RE: My Revelation
Actually, Jesus says the opposite and you are trying to wite wash the brutality and bigotry of your religion.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#84
RE: My Revelation
So, what is this immorality you speak of?
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#85
RE: My Revelation
(July 18, 2023 at 3:11 pm)Lek Wrote:
(July 18, 2023 at 2:16 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: What is your reading of Leviticus 20:13 then?
Pretty clear. He's telling the Israelites to put practicing homosexual men to death. Why? I'm don't know. I'm not under the old testament law and I certainly don't want to execute homosexuals for sleeping together. I don't even want to make it illegal. We can't legislate morality.
The ten commandments are part of the old testament.
You ignore the ten commandments?
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#86
RE: My Revelation
(July 18, 2023 at 4:04 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:
(July 18, 2023 at 3:11 pm)Lek Wrote: Pretty clear. He's telling the Israelites to put practicing homosexual men to death. Why?  I'm don't know. I'm not under the old testament law and I certainly don't want to execute homosexuals for sleeping together. I don't even want to make it illegal. We can't legislate morality.
The ten commandments are part of the old testament.
You ignore the ten commandments?
They ignore whatever is inconvenient Dodgy
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#87
RE: My Revelation
(July 18, 2023 at 3:58 pm)no one Wrote: So, what is this immorality you speak of?
Not loving God and/or our neighbor.
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#88
RE: My Revelation
(July 18, 2023 at 4:08 pm)Helios Wrote:
(July 18, 2023 at 4:04 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: The ten commandments are part of the old testament.
You ignore the ten commandments?
They ignore whatever is inconvenient Dodgy
The ten commandments are part of the old law. If I love God and my neighbor I will follow the ten commandments.
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#89
RE: My Revelation
(July 18, 2023 at 3:11 pm)Lek Wrote:
(July 18, 2023 at 2:16 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: What is your reading of Leviticus 20:13 then?
Pretty clear. He's telling the Israelites to put practicing homosexual men to death. Why? I'm don't know. I'm not under the old testament law and I certainly don't want to execute homosexuals for sleeping together. I don't even want to make it illegal. We can't legislate morality.
Morality? You think homosexuality is immoral?
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#90
RE: My Revelation
(July 18, 2023 at 3:48 pm)Lek Wrote: Jesus fulfilled the law, which no one else could do. The whole idea of the old law was to demonstrate that we were unable to follow it. How many fathers killed their sons for being disobedient?  The law demonstrated that we needed a savior. Jesus summed up the law with two commandments. "love God above all and love your neighbor as yourself".

bold mine

I wonder why the catholics didn't understand that? Lets hear your take on 'kill them all and let god sort them out'.

Or maybe the Spanish Inquisition.

You might like something more recent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_c...e_violence
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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