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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 21, 2023 at 4:46 am
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You went off the rails pretty quick. I hold every view to it's own standard. That I allow for a little weird in every explanation is just me being generous. Think about how you're bickering with me right now. It strongly suggests that you think there is such a thing as a meaningful right and wrong.
That's more than a little weirdness, which I'm happy to allow. It's the whole thing...but you're a nihilist...right?
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 21, 2023 at 4:49 am
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I don't see how what you say follows. I am bickering with you because I subjectively enjoy it. I don't believe it has any objective moral value. I also don't think I've gone of any rails. I don't even know what you mean by that.
But if you'd rather not discourse with me on this topic that is fine. I just think the things I've posted and enjoy arguing.
Do you think I hold to any POV which you don't?
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 21, 2023 at 4:51 am
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Well, if you just subjectively have a disagreement then I'll utterly disregard it. It's not that I'm wrong - no such thing. It's more that you like chocolate and I'm talking about vanilla.
When you express your nihilism...you do think it's true and meaningful. This is the main problem for nihilism..even if it's true...especially if it's true. Being true...is a problem for nihilism.
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 21, 2023 at 4:54 am
There is no moral wrong, all morality is like preferring vanilla over chocolate.
One can be 'wrong' in the sense of being factually incorrect, or being illogical, or being unreasonable etc, though.
So you can't be wrong on saying that it is objectively immoral to kill infants for fun, but you can be wrong if you say 2+2=75
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 21, 2023 at 4:56 am
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Is it? Skullfucking an infant and rescuing a seal are just chocolate an vanilla? Here's the next problem with nihilists - from an experiential and behavioral pov...ofc.... If they believed what they said we should see more skullfucked children and fewer rescued seals.
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 21, 2023 at 4:58 am
Yes, they're equal in the sense that they are actions undertaken by evolved apes without freewill with no reference to any objective moral reality.
They are different in that most people strongly subjectively prefer one to the other. Some don't.
The world reflects that people have that strong common subjective preference with the occasional person having a different set of preferences.
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 21, 2023 at 5:00 am
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If you say so. Who am I to argue? What possible objective and meaningful standard could compare and differentiate between skullfucking an infant and rescuing a seal. I'm sure you've made your thoughts on this clear to all of your peers, and that they don't recoil in horror when they see you.
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 21, 2023 at 5:03 am
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No, most agree with me. Very few atheists, physicalists, or agnostics Ive met believe in moral realism.
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 21, 2023 at 5:04 am
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Do they? Fuck. Kind of party where you cant turn your back on anyone, eh? I don't know why you think that few people, atheists or otherwise, don't believe in moral realism. It's both the common intuition -and- the majority academic position.
You sure it's atheists you're hanging out with, cuz these infant skullfuckers sound like something else...
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RE: Any Nihilists here?
August 21, 2023 at 5:04 am
They act the same on average as everyone else. Subjective selfishness works out the same in the wash.
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