The Noahide Flood

[LinuxGal]

Your numbers are too small, because as the water gets deeper, the surface gets larger in a spherical and not orthogonal manner, and the sphere of the Earth with 8km of water is now 16 km wider in diameter.

Well, I broke my math bone when I was in the fifth grade, and it never healed right. Rendered my calculations to  2 + 2 = somedamnthing

Mt. Everest is 5.5 miles high, and the area of the Earth is 200 million miles, so it was 1.1 billion cubic miles of water.  And a wind came and took it all away (Genesis 8:1).

[LinuxGal]

Genesis 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.


Frankly, atheists are quite happy at the prospect of being eternally separated from a god who destroys the whole Earth because it's too violent.

Being an atheist in and of itself won't separate you from God.

There are good Catholics suffering in hell as we speak because they ate a hot dog at a Yankees game and it was a Lenten Friday.

[Anomalocaris]

Okay, four females and four males on the Ark. 75% presumptively of breeding age. How many kids would the women have to pop out to reach 7,888,000,000 people today? Pick any likely date for the Flood, it will be as accurate as any other.

If you ignore effects of things like limits of ecological carrying capacity, plagues, hereditary diseases made worse by incest, and other mass culling influences, then the reproductive rate required to start with a tiny founder population and fill the earth with writhing humans within a few thousand years is amazingly low, given any reasonable estimate of reproductive age.    If you assume generation gap is 16 years and average life expectancy is 32 years (true for most of human history), then each woman only need to pop out an average of between 2.1 and 2.2 offsprings who go on to reproduce to get you to population of billions of people within 5000 years.

Even with all the limits of ecological carrying capacity, plagues, hereditary diseases made worse by incest, and human sacrifice and other culling influences competing to kill them off,  the native Americans still went from a founder population of at most a few hundred people about 13000 years ago to over 100 million people just before Europeans showed up and killed 95% of them with mostly plague.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Your numbers are too small, because as the water gets deeper, the surface gets larger in a spherical and not orthogonal manner, and the sphere of the Earth with 8km of water is now 16 km wider in diameter.

Seems to me the simple calculation would be

(4/3 pi (r + d) ^ 3) - (4/3 pi r ^ 3)

Where r = radius of the earth at sea level and d is the additional depth of the water.

It’s too early for maths.

Boru

[Ahriman]

Being an atheist in and of itself won't separate you from God.

There are good Catholics suffering in hell as we speak because they ate a hot dog at a Yankees game and it was a Lenten Friday.

No there aren't. Do you actually know anything about Catholicism?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

There are good Catholics suffering in hell as we speak because they ate a hot dog at a Yankees game and it was a Lenten Friday.

No there aren't. Do you actually know anything about Catholicism?

Same amount as you, but filed under "fiction."

[Thumpalumpacus]

There are good Catholics suffering in hell as we speak because they ate a hot dog at a Yankees game and it was a Lenten Friday.

No there aren't. Do you actually know anything about Catholicism?

You're right for the wrong reason. There are no good Catholics burning in Hell because Hell doesn't exist.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Run for your lives, folks. It's the ... Naugahyde Flood!

[arewethereyet]

There are good Catholics suffering in hell as we speak because they ate a hot dog at a Yankees game and it was a Lenten Friday.

No there aren't. Do you actually know anything about Catholicism?

You really shouldn't question the resident expert.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Okay, four females and four males on the Ark. 75% presumptively of breeding age. How many kids would the women have to pop out to reach 7,888,000,000 people today? Pick any likely date for the Flood, it will be as accurate as any other.

If you ignore effects of things like limits of ecological carrying capacity, plagues, hereditary diseases made worse by incest, and other mass culling influences, then the reproductive rate required to start with a tiny founder population and fill the earth with writhing humans within a few thousand years is amazingly low, given any reasonable estimate of reproductive age.    If you assume generation gap is 16 years and average life expectancy is 32 years (true for most of human history), then each woman only need to pop out an average of between 2.1 and 2.2 offsprings who go on to reproduce to get you to population of billions of people within 5000 years.

Even with all the limits of ecological carrying capacity, plagues, hereditary diseases made worse by incest, and human sacrifice and other culling influences competing to kill them off,  the native Americans still went from a founder population of at most a few hundred people about 13000 years ago to over 100 million people just before Europeans showed up and killed 95% of them with mostly plague.

Thing is, there were more than that number of childbearing age a long time before the window for the Noachian nonsense, world wide. China was already headed down the overpop road.