(November 9, 2023 at 12:06 pm)FrustratedFool Wrote: @Boru
1) But how do you deduce from voting results that intelligence doesn't matter? Do you filter out from all the votes cast all those made by high IQ people and see if they all tally or something?
2) Why would you think that? That seems ridiculous to me. Surely teaching people things like rhetorical devices, media literacy, economic basics, political processes, critical thinking, are things that protect against facism? I may as well interpret your desire to not educate children correctly as a fascistic desire to have an easily manipulate populous. Whatever card you think I'm palming is purely in your own mind.
4a) I would classify a good voter probably in the same way as you would: someone who votes with a sensible, educated, informed, empathic, intelligent, mature, mind with minimal manipulation. After all, you want an age criteria, yes?
4b) So why do you not allow 4 year olds to vote, if being immature doesn't matter?
5) You don't think I can show that on average a 30 year old will likely make less manipulated voting choices than a 3 year old? That's an odd position to take.
1) Based on the people who get elected and the referenda that pass. If your ideal voter qualities were all that you claim, it would necessarily make people with those qualities more likely to vote that people lacking those qualities, which would, in turn, be reflected in the results.
2) I understand your response. It’s a hallmark of fascism that fascists object to being called ‘fascists’.
4a) That’s got nothing to do with quantification.
4b/5) Don’t be absurd.
Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson