Your 3 main reasons

[iamatheist]

List the 3 points that you would make if you tried to convince a stalwart Religious believer (theist) over to non-belief (a-theist). And give reasons why you chose those 3

Simply a thought provoking exercise

[Autumnlicious]

No.

Who are you?

[iamatheist]

No.

Who are you?

You are joking right? I have read through most of the current top posts on this board and can obviously tell that you guys come under some fire from most angles, so I will forgive some defensiveness
However, if you choose not to join in, please be quiet.. I am not here to flame anyone

My name is purposefully ambiguous, I am not here to cause anything other than intelligent debate, just pretend you are trying to change my mind

...But thanks for the bump

[Cinjin]

No.

Who are you?

Yeah, I agree. No avatar, generic name, cocky as shit. Probably a hit & runner with some ridiculous plan to "preach to the ungodly"

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

List the 3 points that you would make if you tried to convince a stalwart Religious believer (theist) over to non-belief (a-theist). And give reasons why you chose those 3

Simply a thought provoking exercise

Well,you haven't succeeded in provoking MY thoughts, simply come across as mildly irritating.



Perhaps begin by listing YOUR three reasons?

Me? I really don't care enough about the personal superstitions of others to try to convince them of anything. PLUS, believers are rarely swayed by reason or evidence.PLUS, I may be wrong,no matter how unlikely I think that may be.

[iamatheist]

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Spineless, simply one word sums up the first impression you guys have given me.. I was not here as a 'troll' or to be passing you comments on to anyone.. simply to further my knowledge and find out about fellow atheists

I am Atheist to the bone, not only do I not believe I am of the schooling that not only religion but also a belief in god of any description has far more negative impacts than good and if you have any direct questions send 'em at me (yes, i realise one of you is a Deist, but being open and precise about what you believe is the 'spine' that I am claiming you lack)

I have posted this exact thread on a lot of boards from atheism to religious ones, under the same ambiguity and so far you guys... my 'brothers in ideology'.. are the only ones to act like this

Maybe put less thought into what avatar or witty signature you're 'gonna have this week' and start talking about things that matter to you/society/the members of this board... Otherwise don't post on it, simple really isn't it

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

However, if you choose not to join in, please be quiet..

Mate,you don't get to set any conditions.

So far your ambiguity simply looks like dishonesty. Trust and credibility must be earned here. So far you have neither.


Atheism is not an ideology and I couldn't care less how you behave on other forums. Here you are well on the way to getting yourself banned for your ad hominem attacks on our members.

We are not here to meet your expectations. It is you who need to meet ours. If you can't or won't obey our rules, you are not welcome; bugger off.

[iamatheist]

List the 3 points that you would make if you tried to convince a stalwart Religious believer (theist) over to non-belief (a-theist). And give reasons why you chose those 3

Simply a thought provoking exercise

Well,you haven't succeeded in provoking MY thoughts, simply come across as mildly irritating.



Perhaps begin by listing YOUR three reasons?

Me? I really don't care enough about the personal superstitions of others to try to convince them of anything. PLUS, believers are rarely swayed by reason or evidence.PLUS, I may be wrong,no matter how unlikely I think that may be.

My, 3 reasons

1. Perhaps most obviously and maybe a cop-out, i start with the atrocities undertaken in the name of a deity. This is fairly obvious and needs no reasoning, however i will explain that while this is my main argument against religion it is not necessarily an argument against the religious at large

2. My second being an idea springing from the dark ages, so called because of the lack of intelligent thought to come out of that era, provoked not wholly but mainly by the fear of going against the rulings and laws of the church for fear of imprisonment or worse yet an ETERNITY of damnation in a literal "yes its underneath you" hell. And is basically the drag-factor on moral, scientific and social understanding of the world around us.. the tendency for a religious person to disregard evidence of anything that makes their 'god' seem less likely

3. My final point in my "top 3" would have to be the undeserved sense of worth that religion encourages, self worth comes from achievements in life, and I don't mean your first steps or any other meaningless task in the grand scheme of things... A perfect human would use the limit of his intellect and the entirety of the time possible that he has to further the species, solve issues and better the lives of those around him near and far... And while religion teaches this, there is a constant double standard that they must better your life by engaging you in battle (whether metaphorically or literally) and CHANGING it

Questions?

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However, if you choose not to join in, please be quiet..

Mate,you don't get to set any conditions.

So far your ambiguity simply looks like dishonesty. Trust and credibility must be earned here. So far you have neither.


Atheism is not an ideology and I couldn't care less how you behave on other forums. Here you are well on the way to getting yourself banned for your ad hominem attacks on our members.

We are not here to meet your expectations. It is you who need to meet ours. If you can't or won't obey our rules, you are not welcome; bugger off.

I never mentioned how i behave on other forums, I made the point that I ask a question and two members cut me down simply for asking it before I chose a picture.

Okay, apologies for the ambiguity but if I may explain myself its purpose was not to sway any of the thoughts within and to not give the thread a direction before it even took off

Just for the record aswell..
"An ideology is a set of ideas that constitutes one's goals, expectations, and actions. An ideology can be thought of as a comprehensive vision, as a way of looking at things" Im pretty sure atheism is nothing more than a way of looking at things. Perhaps my understanding of the word is slightly wrong but I wouldnt say it was a complete erroneous use of the word

The original question was to find out exactly what people hold as their own main reasons... why do you choose not to believe when so many choose to, given the same evidence... but i guess hope of ever finding that out has been lost in argument now? Or by some 'divine intervention' are you guys gonna start talking

[KichigaiNeko]

None of your business sweet pea

[Cinjin]

Maybe put less thought into what avatar or witty signature you're 'gonna have this week' and start talking about things that matter to you/society/the members of this board... Otherwise don't post on it, simple really isn't it

For the record, no one gives a shit about what your avatar looks like or what you say when you sign off ... we just know that TYPICALLY, people with no "personality" attached to their threads are OFTEN hit & runners or liars or looking for some lame set-up - never to be seen again. It didn't help your case that you jumped right into a topic that often draws those exact kind of people. So ... we were cautious ... Simple really, isn't it.

The original question was to find out exactly what people hold as their own main reasons... why do you choose not to believe when so many choose to, given the same evidence... but i guess hope of ever finding that out has been lost in argument now? Or by some 'divine intervention' are you guys gonna start talking

You insulted everyone on this site by calling its members spineless and yet you still wish for them to join you in intellectual debate?!? Why would anyone want to bantor with you now? Especially when your 3 reasons offer nothing we haven't seen 100 times before.