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Elon Musk
RE: Elon Musk
You know who else repeats Russian propaganda? Donald Trump. He's had three things in his mouth the last eight years: food, air, and Putin's hogleg.

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Talking about Russians spreading their propaganda on the American people, is something that has been going on for decades.

In 1994 the Russian President, Boris Yeltsin disclosed in his memoirs that a day after the assassination of JFK, a letter was sent to the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union by KGB Chairman Vladimir Semichastny. It recommended the publication in a “progressive paper in one of the Western countries” of disinformation that would expose “the attempt by reactionary circles in the USA to remove the responsibility for the murder of Kennedy from the real criminals” and pin it on someone else.

Two months after the death of Kennedy, the British magazine Labour Monthly published an article describing Oswald as a fall guy and, without supplying any evidence, pinned the assassination on “far right” elements in the USA. The magazine’s editor was Rajani Palme Dutt, the privately educated one-time General Secretary of the Communist Party of Great Britain and an unrepentant Stalinist. The Labour Monthly piece did its work and soon everyone was cooking up Kennedy conspiracy theories and whispering them in bars across the Western Hemisphere. Dutt was very far from being the only useful idiot in the game, and over the next two years the Soviet Disinformation Unit would propagate many lies about the assassination, including a carefully planted piece in the Paese Sera, an Italian newspaper that would eventually lead to the arrest of Clay Shaw.

The bestselling book Oswald: Assassin or Fall Guy, published in 1964, also played a part. The author Joachim Joesten claimed that Kennedy had been against the escalation in Vietnam and that the CIA had been essentially a rogue outfit. As the Washington Post revealed in 2003, it was not until “the notes of a former KGB archivist named Vasili Mitrokhin were published in 1999” that Joesten’s publisher had received subsidies totaling $672,000 from the Central Committee of the Communist Party in the early 1960s.

So the existing and understandable climate of paranoia in the wake of the assassination got fuelled by Soviet disinformation that led millions to believe that the murder of JFK was a massive conspiracy.

Or take AIDS misinformation - Operation Denver

In 1983 they pulled off another extraordinary disinformation coup when an anonymous letter by a “well-known American scientist” was printed in an Indian newspaper called The Patriot, claiming that the AIDS virus had been manufactured in a US military lab and then leaked out. It was so effective that many people still believe it today.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(July 4, 2024 at 1:45 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Talking about Russians spreading their propaganda on the American people, is something that has been going on for decades.

In 1994 the Russian President, Boris Yeltsin disclosed in his memoirs that a day after the assassination of JFK, a letter was sent to the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union by KGB Chairman Vladimir Semichastny. It recommended the publication in a “progressive paper in one of the Western countries” of disinformation that would expose “the attempt by reactionary circles in the USA to remove the responsibility for the murder of Kennedy from the real criminals” and pin it on someone else.

Two months after the death of Kennedy, the British magazine Labour Monthly published an article describing Oswald as a fall guy and, without supplying any evidence, pinned the assassination on “far right” elements in the USA. The magazine’s editor was Rajani Palme Dutt, the privately educated one-time General Secretary of the Communist Party of Great Britain and an unrepentant Stalinist. The Labour Monthly piece did its work and soon everyone was cooking up Kennedy conspiracy theories and whispering them in bars across the Western Hemisphere. Dutt was very far from being the only useful idiot in the game, and over the next  two years the Soviet Disinformation Unit would propagate many lies about the assassination, including a carefully planted piece in the Paese Sera, an Italian newspaper that would eventually lead to the arrest of Clay Shaw.

The bestselling book Oswald: Assassin or Fall Guy, published in 1964, also played a part. The author Joachim Joesten claimed that Kennedy had been against the escalation in Vietnam and that the CIA had been essentially a rogue outfit. As the Washington Post revealed in 2003, it was not until “the notes of a former KGB archivist named Vasili Mitrokhin were published in 1999” that Joesten’s publisher had received subsidies totaling $672,000 from the Central Committee of the Communist Party in the early 1960s.

So the existing and understandable climate of paranoia in the wake of the assassination got fuelled by Soviet disinformation that led millions to believe that the murder of JFK was a massive conspiracy.

Or take AIDS misinformation - Operation Denver

In 1983 they pulled off another extraordinary disinformation coup when an anonymous letter by a “well-known American scientist” was printed in an Indian newspaper called The Patriot, claiming that the AIDS virus had been manufactured in a US military lab and then leaked out. It was so effective that many people still believe it today.

Absolutely. Historically, the Soviet government maintained an Agitprop department from the very beginnings of that nation. At its dissolution, no subsequent Russian intelligence agency would see fit to disband such an effective program.

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RE: Elon Musk
(July 3, 2024 at 9:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: You know who else repeats Russian propaganda? Donald Trump. He's had three things in his mouth the last eight years: food, air, and Putin's hogleg.

DAMN, you seem to have a severe case of TDS.
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TDS is simply more projection by the truly deranged who run around wearing gold sneakers, red hats and carrying "Trump Money".
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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(July 4, 2024 at 7:06 pm)MR. Macabre 666 Wrote:
(July 3, 2024 at 9:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: You know who else repeats Russian propaganda? Donald Trump. He's had three things in his mouth the last eight years: food, air, and Putin's hogleg.

DAMN, you seem to have a severe case of TDS.

It's not your democracy at stake, and you don't even live here, so yeah, your ignorance might be understandable -- though with Bolsonaro trying something similar, I'd expect you to be more aware.

Apparently I credit you a little too much. But please, continue on.

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RE: Elon Musk
(July 4, 2024 at 7:06 pm)MR. Macabre 666 Wrote:
(July 3, 2024 at 9:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: You know who else repeats Russian propaganda? Donald Trump. He's had three things in his mouth the last eight years: food, air, and Putin's hogleg.

DAMN, you seem to have a severe case of TDS.

So talking about the presidential candidate is a derangement syndrome? Since when?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(July 3, 2024 at 6:40 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Dozens of bogus stories tracked by the BBC appear aimed at influencing US voters and sowing distrust ahead of November’s election. Some have been roundly ignored but others have been shared by influencers and members of the US Congress.

A truly left-wing organization wouldn't allow such lies to be spread. Tolerating intolerance isn't reasonable.
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.

Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.

Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;

What is good is easy to get,

What is terrible is easy to endure
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RE: Elon Musk
I'm seeing fanboi trucks daily now, piloted by douchenozzle fanbois.
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Elon Musk Claims One Million Humans Will Live On Mars In 20 Years, Offers His Sperm To Seed The Mars Colony

Mr. Musk told SpaceX employees in April that he now expects one million people to be living there in about 20 years. No one has ever set foot on the planet. NASA doesn’t expect to land humans on Mars until the 2040s.

And if people get there, they will be greeted by a barren terrain, icy temperatures, dust storms, and air that is impossible to breathe. Yet Mr. Musk is so wedded to the idea of creating a civilization on Mars — he once said he plans to die there — that it has propelled nearly every business endeavor he has undertaken on Earth.

Employees said that Musk has ordered a team to make a spacesuit fit for Mars’ inhospitable environment and a medical team to research whether humans can procreate on Mars. Musk has volunteered his sperm to help seed a colony, two people familiar with his comments said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-...onize-mars
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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