The Radical Right

[Jackalope]

Just weak trolling

Maybe.

I wouldn't rule that OP is sniffing glue.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

It’s starting to look as if the RR in Congress is looking around for (yet) another new Speaker.

Boru

On further reading, it looks as if this may not be as easy as they think (certainly not as easy as kicking out McCarthy). Johnson, for all his myriad faults, turns out to be pretty savvy, politically speaking - his willingness to work with House Democrats on the budget and other things may convince enough of them to vote to keep him if another motion to vacate is attempted.

This will also have the effect of nullifying the outsized influence of the MAGA faction in the House generally.

Boru

[ShinyCrystals]

It’s starting to look as if the RR in Congress is looking around for (yet) another new Speaker.

Boru

On further reading, it looks as if this may not be as easy as they think (certainly not as easy as kicking out McCarthy). Johnson, for all his myriad faults, turns out to be pretty savvy, politically speaking - his willingness to work with House Democrats on the budget and other things may convince enough of them to vote to keep him if another motion to vacate is attempted.

This will also have the effect of nullifying the outsized influence of the MAGA faction in the House generally.

Boru

I would like to say something on the thing about the republicans wanting to vote him out just because he was willingly working with the democrats like those in the first place, as you may have said...

The republican party and the democrat party are two of the main parties of the same country. When one party controls one part of congress like either the house or senate, and the other party has control over something like the other, there is bound to be conflict, but with the two separate parts of congress being there in the first place, the only way for two conflicting parties who each control one part of congress to get anywhere for the government and the country is if they work together to any extent and try to find solutions to the goals they want to achieve.

What I am trying to say, is that the republicans do not seem to notice this, and are being selfish as I said before, and with that, you can't shut out an opposing party just because you don't like them. That is like wanting one's version of perfection to come true and shutting out the bad or anything that could "ruin" it just because one does not like them, even if they are not so bad. The fact that the republicans want to vote out Mike Johnson as speaker of the house is something I would call ludicrous for reasons I just said. The United States is not going to get anywhere if the republicans want to shut out the democrats because they don't like them, and additionally and potentially, vice versa. (It goes both ways) Also, the country would not get anywhere, or would even regress if the republicans controlled all of congress, or all parts of the government for that matter. Plus, we are supposed to be one country here, and there is a point of having two sides to balance things out.

The fact that at least the republicans do not seem to or do not want to recognize this and are too self-centered to work with the democrats is not something good for our country, I say.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

On further reading, it looks as if this may not be as easy as they think (certainly not as easy as kicking out McCarthy). Johnson, for all his myriad faults, turns out to be pretty savvy, politically speaking - his willingness to work with House Democrats on the budget and other things may convince enough of them to vote to keep him if another motion to vacate is attempted.

This will also have the effect of nullifying the outsized influence of the MAGA faction in the House generally.

Boru

I would like to say something on the thing about the republicans wanting to vote him out just because he was willingly working with the democrats like those in the first place, as you may have said...

The republican party and the democrat party are two of the main parties of the same country. When one party controls one part of congress like either the house or senate, and the other party has control over something like the other, there is bound to be conflict, but with the two separate parts of congress being there in the first place, the only way for two conflicting parties who each control one part of congress to get anywhere for the government and the country is if they work together to any extent and try to find solutions to the goals they want to achieve.

What I am trying to say, is that the republicans do not seem to notice this, and are being selfish as I said before, and with that, you can't shut out an opposing party just because you don't like them. That is like wanting one's version of perfection to come true and shutting out the bad or anything that could "ruin" it just because one does not like them, even if they are not so bad. The fact that the republicans want to vote out Mike Johnson as speaker of the house is something I would call ludicrous for reasons I just said. The United States is not going to get anywhere if the republicans want to shut out the democrats because they don't like them, and additionally and potentially, vice versa. (It goes both ways) Also, the country would not get anywhere, or would even regress if the republicans controlled all of congress, or all parts of the government for that matter. Plus, we are supposed to be one country here, and there is a point of having two sides to balance things out.

The fact that at least the republicans do not seem to or do not want to recognize this and are too self-centered to work with the democrats is not something good for our country, I say.

It’s not Republicans so much as it is the Twitter faction of the GOP in the House. These people are more concerned with making noise and news than they are with governing.

Boru

[ShinyCrystals]

I would like to say something on the thing about the republicans wanting to vote him out just because he was willingly working with the democrats like those in the first place, as you may have said...

The republican party and the democrat party are two of the main parties of the same country. When one party controls one part of congress like either the house or senate, and the other party has control over something like the other, there is bound to be conflict, but with the two separate parts of congress being there in the first place, the only way for two conflicting parties who each control one part of congress to get anywhere for the government and the country is if they work together to any extent and try to find solutions to the goals they want to achieve.

What I am trying to say, is that the republicans do not seem to notice this, and are being selfish as I said before, and with that, you can't shut out an opposing party just because you don't like them. That is like wanting one's version of perfection to come true and shutting out the bad or anything that could "ruin" it just because one does not like them, even if they are not so bad. The fact that the republicans want to vote out Mike Johnson as speaker of the house is something I would call ludicrous for reasons I just said. The United States is not going to get anywhere if the republicans want to shut out the democrats because they don't like them, and additionally and potentially, vice versa. (It goes both ways) Also, the country would not get anywhere, or would even regress if the republicans controlled all of congress, or all parts of the government for that matter. Plus, we are supposed to be one country here, and there is a point of having two sides to balance things out.

The fact that at least the republicans do not seem to or do not want to recognize this and are too self-centered to work with the democrats is not something good for our country, I say.

It’s not Republicans so much as it is the Twitter faction of the GOP in the House. These people are more concerned with making noise and news than they are with governing.

Boru

Twitter faction? You mean X?

I do say it makes sense, but I still think the republican's apparent unwillingness to work with the democrats is something that can hurt this country.

So, what ways is the Twitter/X faction involved in all this, if you care to explain?

[Leonardo17]

   I don’t know about US politics that well but my approach on this is a bit more universal and more philosophical. Before the start of the rise of extreme liberal values during the 80’s there used to be this cohesion within society. We used to respect working-class people more because we knew these blue collar people were our hands, our feet, our arms our legs. And they used to approve of us as their heads, their nervous system, their vital organs, their eyes, their ears now there is this huge cliff among us. They see us as this “intellectual upper class” who is not to be trusted and is responsible for all the evil in the world while the true upper class (the richest 1% that has as much wealth as the poorest 50%) is still getting richer and richer.
 

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   And the far right has been taping on this at least since the second half of the 90’s. See what’s happening in Germany with the AFD:
 
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/...t-afd-ban/
 
   So we cannot just block these political parties and put all those politicians to jail or anything like that (although I believe that Donald Trump really deserves it)
 
    So it might be that we need to see the bigger picture here. The richest 1% are not our enemies either. They are the ones who are “making things happen” around the world so they deserve some amount of respect too. But I think they should contribute more to society. And working class people should have this notion of solidarity with other working class people. Today there are farmer protest movements all over Europe. Although I do not agree with all of their demands (like the free use of some pesticides etc. in order to make more money) I always have this feeling of solidarity toward them.
 
    The far right (all over the world) does not like this logical approach. It aims to win the gross majority. Less educated people from the most significant religious majority in whatever country is. Point its finger to us (white collars who are completely critical to their hypocritical way of doing things), get all the votes and keep serving the upper 1% (who are their main source in terms of finances.
 

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   So Republicans should not like this either because that’s not the typical right wing approach of right wing-liberals either. I don’t think it’s very likely but I think Nikki Hailey is the better candidate of the GOP (because of all the things I have just said)

[The Grand Nudger]

Hahahahahahahahah!

[Thumpalumpacus]

Neither party cares much about the working class. They're both too beholden to their favorite elites.

[The Grand Nudger]

Democrats want to trade something to the peons to continue the corporatist grift. Republicans won't be doing that, they're just going to grift harder, because fuck us is why. There's a gaping social difference, but the right doesn't actually believe in any of that puritan culture war shit, as they're perverts and race traitors down to the last man.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Democrats want to trade something to the peons to continue the corporatist grift.  Republicans won't be doing that, they're just going to grift harder, because fuck us is why.  There's a gaping social difference, but the right doesn't actually believe in any of that puritan culture war shit, as they're perverts and race traitors down to the last man.

Pity your Constitution won’t allow a foreign-born president. Your current crop of possibles aren’t terribly impressive.

Boru