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RE: That J.D. Vance Thread
August 6, 2024 at 5:50 pm
(August 6, 2024 at 12:15 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: JD Vance's Wife Usha: My Husband Only Meant to Insult People Who Actively Choose Not to Have Kids, Not People Who Are Trying but Are Unsuccessful.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/jd...adies-spin
WTF?!?
More reason to vote for Kamala
Given his pronouncements, Usha should be busy consulting with a divorce lawyer. Man could go all Jack Torrance any minute.
But given the way she's "supporting" him, this might be simply a distraction.
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RE: That J.D. Vance Thread
August 11, 2024 at 7:45 pm
J.D. Vance Used to Be an Atheist. What He Believes Now Is Telling
He’s not an evangelical Christian. He’s a Catholic.
His enthusiasm for a particular and relatively obscure kind of contemporary Catholic political thought shows up in his politics—his longing for Americans to build robust nuclear families, his comments about banning porn, his scorn for childless cat ladies. It’s tempting to see these stances as old ones from the Christian right, familiar to anyone who has followed the evolution of the GOP in the past couple of decades, but Vance’s past comments indicate that they’re motivated by something newer, and more radical, than that.
As a young man, he identified for a while as an atheist. Then, as he recounted in a 2020 essay about his conversion for the Catholic magazine the Lamp, he reconnected with Christianity when he was searching for greater meaning in his life during law school. He began to feel drawn to Catholicism in particular after reading up on Catholic moral philosophers and discussing theology with conservative Dominican friars he knew.
He had come to Catholicism in part because of the writings of Saint Augustine. “Augustine gave me a way to understand Christian faith in a strongly intellectual way,” Vance said. “As someone who spent a lot of his life buying into the lie that you had to be stupid to be a Christian, Augustine really demonstrated in a moving way that that’s not true.”
In the past few weeks, Vance has come under fire for resurfaced comments attacking “childless cat ladies” as “miserable” and bad for society; claiming that childless people tend to be “deranged” and “psychotic”; and proposing giving extra voting power to parents with young children.
These anti-modern comments fit with a certain kind of worldview that prizes a traditional and family-oriented society above individual liberties—and even democracy.
https://slate.com/life/2024/08/jd-vance-...igion.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: That J.D. Vance Thread
August 11, 2024 at 10:38 pm
(August 11, 2024 at 7:45 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: J.D. Vance Used to Be an Atheist. What He Believes Now Is Telling
He’s not an evangelical Christian. He’s a Catholic.
His enthusiasm for a particular and relatively obscure kind of contemporary Catholic political thought shows up in his politics—his longing for Americans to build robust nuclear families, his comments about banning porn, his scorn for childless cat ladies. It’s tempting to see these stances as old ones from the Christian right, familiar to anyone who has followed the evolution of the GOP in the past couple of decades, but Vance’s past comments indicate that they’re motivated by something newer, and more radical, than that.
As a young man, he identified for a while as an atheist. Then, as he recounted in a 2020 essay about his conversion for the Catholic magazine the Lamp, he reconnected with Christianity when he was searching for greater meaning in his life during law school. He began to feel drawn to Catholicism in particular after reading up on Catholic moral philosophers and discussing theology with conservative Dominican friars he knew.
He had come to Catholicism in part because of the writings of Saint Augustine. “Augustine gave me a way to understand Christian faith in a strongly intellectual way,” Vance said. “As someone who spent a lot of his life buying into the lie that you had to be stupid to be a Christian, Augustine really demonstrated in a moving way that that’s not true.”
In the past few weeks, Vance has come under fire for resurfaced comments attacking “childless cat ladies” as “miserable” and bad for society; claiming that childless people tend to be “deranged” and “psychotic”; and proposing giving extra voting power to parents with young children.
These anti-modern comments fit with a certain kind of worldview that prizes a traditional and family-oriented society above individual liberties—and even democracy.
https://slate.com/life/2024/08/jd-vance-...igion.html
And on the other hand, I had a philosophy professor in college who, a former Franciscan monk, encouraged questioning and gave me an "A" on one essay-question (minimum 500 words) wherein my answer was "I simply don't know". I think those four words -- and his willingness to accept them -- saved my GPA that year. Turned that "F" into a "C" for that class.
Probably because he was comfortable with doubt, unlike most Christians. Thank you, Dr Hughes.
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RE: That J.D. Vance Thread
August 12, 2024 at 4:34 am
Vance has been touting a $5000 per child tax credit for families, which is not a bad idea (I've been reliably informed that raising kids is kinda pricey).
When the measure came up for a vote in the Senate, Vance didn't show up.
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RE: That J.D. Vance Thread
August 12, 2024 at 8:09 am
JD Vance campaign fails to deny that viral drag photo is of him
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RE: That J.D. Vance Thread
August 12, 2024 at 8:24 am
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: That J.D. Vance Thread
August 13, 2024 at 6:29 pm
Glad none of my college 'dress up' photos are out there.
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RE: That J.D. Vance Thread
August 13, 2024 at 9:02 pm
Workers allege ‘nightmare’ conditions at Kentucky startup JD Vance helped fund
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/13/politics/...index.html
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The rise and fall of the company, and Vance’s role in it, cuts against his image as a champion for the working class — an image that helped catapult him to the top of the Republican ticket as Donald Trump’s running mate.
AppHarvest employees said they were forced to work in grueling conditions inside the company’s greenhouse, where temperatures often soared into the triple digits. Complaints filed with the US Department of Labor and a Kentucky regulator between 2020 and 2023 show that workers alleged they were given insufficient water breaks and weren’t provided adequate safety gear. Some workers said they suffered heat exhaustion or injuries, though state inspectors did not find violations.
Despite promising local jobs, the company eventually began contracting migrant workers from Mexico, Guatemala and other countries, numerous former employees told CNN.
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RE: That J.D. Vance Thread
August 13, 2024 at 9:04 pm
(August 13, 2024 at 9:02 pm)brewer Wrote: Workers allege ‘nightmare’ conditions at Kentucky startup JD Vance helped fund
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/13/politics/...index.html
Out takes:
The rise and fall of the company, and Vance’s role in it, cuts against his image as a champion for the working class — an image that helped catapult him to the top of the Republican ticket as Donald Trump’s running mate.
AppHarvest employees said they were forced to work in grueling conditions inside the company’s greenhouse, where temperatures often soared into the triple digits. Complaints filed with the US Department of Labor and a Kentucky regulator between 2020 and 2023 show that workers alleged they were given insufficient water breaks and weren’t provided adequate safety gear. Some workers said they suffered heat exhaustion or injuries, though state inspectors did not find violations.
Despite promising local jobs, the company eventually began contracting migrant workers from Mexico, Guatemala and other countries, numerous former employees told CNN.
Disgruntled employees always making shit up.
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RE: That J.D. Vance Thread
August 13, 2024 at 9:10 pm
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That little boondoggle fucked the local food scene in eastern kentucky pretty hard. We were going through something of an agricultural renaissance at the time - that's what this was designed to cash in on, and cash in it did. Sucked up the grants rolled in tax breaks and pushed actual local producers out of the kyproud space in kroger.
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