That J.D. Vance Thread

[brewer]

That little boondoggle fucked the local food scene in eastern kentucky pretty hard.

He's following in someones footsteps. The two deserve each other.

Foxconn mostly abandons $10 billion Wisconsin project touted by Trump

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/21/foxconn-...trump.html

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

As if his statements about women and grannies and his horrendous business practices weren't enough, he's now blaming Irish immigration for a crime wave in the US.

Calling honest, hardworking, law-abiding Irish people 'criminals' is a good way to get yourself kneecapped.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

He also believes that Amazon funded BLM to destroy brick and mortar competitors, big business is the enemy of conservatism, and companies are against abortion bans because they want an endless pool of cheap labor. The last one is my favorite.

Vance is perfect for a post-trump maga. He is every maga man.

[arewethereyet]

JD Vance is more unpopular than Sarah Palin (msn.com)

When you are used as the (former) low bar...good job Palin.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

As if his statements about women and grannies and his horrendous business practices weren't enough, he's now blaming Irish immigration for a crime wave in the US.

Calling honest, hardworking, law-abiding Irish people 'criminals' is a good way to get yourself kneecapped.

Boru

Update on this: it appears that the ‘evidence’ Vance cited for this was the 2002 Martin Scorsese film Gangs of New York. He missed a few salient points -

-The movie is a sensationalized, highly fictionalized version of real events, not a documentary.

-It takes place more than 160 years ago, so not screamingly relevant to the here-and-now.

-Much if not most of the violent crime in the film was orchestrated and perpetrated by criminals gangs who were anti-immigration. Immigrants in the Five Points were the victims of crime, not the instigators.

Boru

[Pat Mustard]

J.D. Vance Used to Be an Atheist. What He Believes Now Is Telling

He’s not an evangelical Christian. He’s a Catholic.

His enthusiasm for a particular and relatively obscure kind of contemporary Catholic political thought shows up in his politics—his longing for Americans to build robust nuclear families, his comments about banning porn, his scorn for childless cat ladies. It’s tempting to see these stances as old ones from the Christian right, familiar to anyone who has followed the evolution of the GOP in the past couple of decades, but Vance’s past comments indicate that they’re motivated by something newer, and more radical, than that.

As a young man, he identified for a while as an atheist. Then, as he recounted in a 2020 essay about his conversion for the Catholic magazine the Lamp, he reconnected with Christianity when he was searching for greater meaning in his life during law school. He began to feel drawn to Catholicism in particular after reading up on Catholic moral philosophers and discussing theology with conservative Dominican friars he knew.

He had come to Catholicism in part because of the writings of Saint Augustine. “Augustine gave me a way to understand Christian faith in a strongly intellectual way,” Vance said. “As someone who spent a lot of his life buying into the lie that you had to be stupid to be a Christian, Augustine really demonstrated in a moving way that that’s not true.”

In the past few weeks, Vance has come under fire for resurfaced comments attacking “childless cat ladies” as “miserable” and bad for society; claiming that childless people tend to be “deranged” and “psychotic”; and proposing giving extra voting power to parents with young children.

These anti-modern comments fit with a certain kind of worldview that prizes a traditional and family-oriented society above individual liberties—and even democracy.

https://slate.com/life/2024/08/jd-vance-...igion.html

I doubt that Vance/Bowman was ever an atheist, because his definition of atheism is "knows god exists, but is angry with him so is pretending he doesn't", in common with every fundagelical grifter out there whose put on the "former atheist" face.

Oh and like all major fundagelical converts to catholicism, Vance/Bowman is genuinely surprised every single time he comes up against something in catholicism that isn't identical to fundagelicism.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

J.D. Vance Used to Be an Atheist. What He Believes Now Is Telling

He’s not an evangelical Christian. He’s a Catholic.

His enthusiasm for a particular and relatively obscure kind of contemporary Catholic political thought shows up in his politics—his longing for Americans to build robust nuclear families, his comments about banning porn, his scorn for childless cat ladies. It’s tempting to see these stances as old ones from the Christian right, familiar to anyone who has followed the evolution of the GOP in the past couple of decades, but Vance’s past comments indicate that they’re motivated by something newer, and more radical, than that.

As a young man, he identified for a while as an atheist. Then, as he recounted in a 2020 essay about his conversion for the Catholic magazine the Lamp, he reconnected with Christianity when he was searching for greater meaning in his life during law school. He began to feel drawn to Catholicism in particular after reading up on Catholic moral philosophers and discussing theology with conservative Dominican friars he knew.

He had come to Catholicism in part because of the writings of Saint Augustine. “Augustine gave me a way to understand Christian faith in a strongly intellectual way,” Vance said. “As someone who spent a lot of his life buying into the lie that you had to be stupid to be a Christian, Augustine really demonstrated in a moving way that that’s not true.”

In the past few weeks, Vance has come under fire for resurfaced comments attacking “childless cat ladies” as “miserable” and bad for society; claiming that childless people tend to be “deranged” and “psychotic”; and proposing giving extra voting power to parents with young children.

These anti-modern comments fit with a certain kind of worldview that prizes a traditional and family-oriented society above individual liberties—and even democracy.

https://slate.com/life/2024/08/jd-vance-...igion.html

I doubt that Vance/Bowman was ever an atheist, because his definition of atheism is "knows god exists, but is angry with him so is pretending he doesn't", in common with every fundagelical grifter out there whose put on the "former atheist" face.

Oh and like all major fundagelical converts to catholicism, Vance/Bowman is genuinely surprised every single time he comes up against something in catholicism that isn't identical to fundagelicism.

(Bold mine)

Source?

Boru

[Thumpalumpacus]

I doubt that Vance/Bowman [...]

I like this construct. I think if the Republicans insist on mispronouncing Ms Harris's name, calling JD Mr Bowman is fair money.

[Silver]

New glamor shot drops

[Cecelia]

https://twitter.com/UsaCamy/status/1824908259863691572

I have no words. Except: Weird.