The Delusions Are Real

[Asmodeus]

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Woman claims she witnessed heaven and hell after being dead for 11 minutes, then came back to tell her peeps all about it.

Sure, this kind of stuff happens all the time, but what I found interesting was how specific the questions were about her baby and aging. It seems she needed answers...

Our brain can make us see all kinds of things that we want to see (or not). When my Dad had dementia he was convinced he was on his old ship, painting while eating cookies and asking me to hand him the box, even though he was laying in a hospital bed. He could still recognize me (the reality), while at the same time living in the delusion.

So, I conclude that when people die (or are dying), their mind projects whatever reflects their own personal beliefs, memories and thoughts. She sees what she wants to see...heaven good, hell bad....but then comes back to life with those visions as "proof" of an afterlife, even though it's just like any other delusion, and the uncritical non-thinkers lap it up. Tell us more! Does Aunt Sara still have that scar on her forehead? Are there unicorns??

My Dad was sure he was sailing before dying, but that didn't make it so....

[brewer]

Those are individual(s) with a abnormal functioning brain. Group held delusions (with supposed normal brain function) are the worst and usually the most dangerous.

[Fake Messiah]

Or it's just a lie. People who are clinically dead for 11 minutes stay dead. Don't people at least watch hospital TV shows? How many times did you have a case when someone is dead for 5 minutes and they bring him back to life but only as a braindead vegetable? It's because the brain dies after not getting oxygen for 4 minutes.

[Fireball]

IIRC, the amount of time from when a person has no pulse (and thus, no oxygen replenishment to their brain) is six or so minutes, whereafter they would be considered brain-dead, due to glycogen depletion. Understand, I am not a doctor, and I did not follow the ambulance to the hospital from a scene to find out.

[Thumpalumpacus]

When my Dad had dementia he was convinced he was on his old ship, painting while eating cookies and asking me to hand him the box, even though he was laying in a hospital bed. He could still recognize me (the reality), while at the same time living in the delusion.

I'm going through something like this with my mom right now. She wants to go to "the other house, where my bed is" so she can go to sleep, when we're at home and we don't have another house at all. She asks me for her brother Tom's phone number so she can ask him about something, and Tom died 12 years ago. I hate it. I hate it. I can't change it.

Mom still recognizes me, and knows she's not on a boat, but goddamn, Sam, it just hurts.

[Asmodeus]

When my Dad had dementia he was convinced he was on his old ship, painting while eating cookies and asking me to hand him the box, even though he was laying in a hospital bed. He could still recognize me (the reality), while at the same time living in the delusion.

I'm going through something like this with my mom right now. She wants to go to "the other house, where my bed is" so she can go to sleep, when we're at home and we don't have another house at all. She asks me for her brother Tom's phone number so she can ask him about something, and Tom died 12 years ago. I hate it. I hate it. I can't change it.

Mom still recognizes me, and knows she's not on a boat, but goddamn, Sam, it just hurts.

I feel for your situation. You feel helpless and all you can do is "play along" with it. Sometimes lying is justified...

[Deesse23]

IIRC, the amount of time from when a person has no pulse (and thus, no oxygen replenishment to their brain) is six or so minutes, whereafter they would be considered brain-dead, due to glycogen depletion. Understand, I am not a doctor, and I did not follow the ambulance to the hospital from a scene to find out.

There is a well documented case of a woman having drowned (in scandinavia iirc) in icy waters and was brought back after 30mins. Temperature matters, a lot. That why (iirc) recommendations for treatment of clinically dead victms of whatever have changed from "keep them warm" to "cool them down".

[Deesse23]

When my Dad had dementia he was convinced he was on his old ship, painting while eating cookies and asking me to hand him the box, even though he was laying in a hospital bed. He could still recognize me (the reality), while at the same time living in the delusion.

I'm going through something like this with my mom right now. She wants to go to "the other house, where my bed is" so she can go to sleep, when we're at home and we don't have another house at all. She asks me for her brother Tom's phone number so she can ask him about something, and Tom died 12 years ago. I hate it. I hate it. I can't change it.

Mom still recognizes me, and knows she's not on a boat, but goddamn, Sam, it just hurts.

Same stuff happened with my grandma. I went to her house, met her in the garden. She recognized me and asked if her son, my das was still alive. Of course he was. But the confusion on her face.....it was hearbreaking.

[Paleophyte]

IIRC, people who are dead stay dead.

People who have a near miss freak out, get some really interesting chemicals dumped into their bloodstream, and trip balls. That's also true for people who were never in any medical danger but didn't know any better. Must be a bit embarrassing to relate your NDE only to be informed that you were merely suffering from a nasty case of indigestion.

[The Valkyrie]

I was out for around two minutes before my heart was started again.

No heaven or hell, no Valhalla, no Eliseum Fields.

Nothing.