Evolution and Biological Testing

[ruhollah]

Contrary to popular belief, this religion doesn't deny evolution. Furthermore this religion doesn't ban controversial scientific experiments.

In fact, stem cell research is getting tremendous funding in Iran!

Where the line is drawn is when scientist and sociologist apply these theories to human society. Social Darwinism is a complete opposite of the principles of this relgion.

The problem with social Darwinism is that the powerful upper class can use these theories to justify that helping the poor and weak is a lost cause. They can claim that evolution bypassed the lower class with not giving them the stronger genes. This kind of rational has dire consequences in society.

[KichigaiNeko]

Social Darwinism?? like WTF???

So what you are saying is that islam is just as power hungry as all the other abrahamic religions for the exact same reasons??

Money? Status? "my god's got a bigger dick than your god" Elitism??

[Justtristo]

Where the line is drawn is when scientist and sociologist apply these theories to human society. Social Darwinism is a complete opposite of the principles of this relgion.

The problem with social Darwinism is that the powerful upper class can use these theories to justify that helping the poor and weak is a lost cause. They can claim that evolution bypassed the lower class with not giving them the stronger genes. This kind of rational has dire consequences in society.

Social Darwinism formed because people misunderstood evolution, evolutionary theory is about the survival of the best adapted rather than the survival of the fittest.

[KichigaiNeko]

Where the line is drawn is when scientist and sociologist apply these theories to human society. Social Darwinism is a complete opposite of the principles of this relgion.

The problem with social Darwinism is that the powerful upper class can use these theories to justify that helping the poor and weak is a lost cause. They can claim that evolution bypassed the lower class with not giving them the stronger genes. This kind of rational has dire consequences in society.

Social Darwinism formed because people misunderstood evolution, evolutionary theory is about the survival of the best adapted rather than the survival of the fattest.

Fixed it for you Atman.... I am thinking that statement could also incorporate...
Greed, Luck/fortune, Primitive, Careless...meh

[ruhollah]

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Hi there, maybe you misunderstood my post

this religion is against social Darwinism ie. applying evolution theories in a social context, eugenics, ...etc.

Social Darwinism?? like WTF???

So what you are saying is that islam is just as power hungry as all the other abrahamic religions for the exact same reasons??

Money? Status? "my god's got a bigger dick than your god" Elitism??

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Hi there

That's correct, unfortunately today and even in the past (example the nazis), social Darwinism was used by the elite to justify not helping the poor and needy in any way what so ever. The elite group claim that it is thanks to their genes that they are rich and wealthy; and that helping the poor and weak is a lost cause because their genes put them in that position.

Where the line is drawn is when scientist and sociologist apply these theories to human society. Social Darwinism is a complete opposite of the principles of this relgion.

The problem with social Darwinism is that the powerful upper class can use these theories to justify that helping the poor and weak is a lost cause. They can claim that evolution bypassed the lower class with not giving them the stronger genes. This kind of rational has dire consequences in society.

Social Darwinism formed because people misunderstood evolution, evolutionary theory is about the survival of the best adapted rather than the survival of the fittest.

[KichigaiNeko]

So it isn't essentially Darwinism that is at fault here???

Just power hungry, elitist "people" who have made religious choices???

[Zen Badger]

Contrary to popular belief, this religion doesn't deny evolution. Furthermore this religion doesn't ban controversial scientific experiments.

In fact, stem cell research is getting tremendous funding in Iran!

Where the line is drawn is when scientist and sociologist apply these theories to human society. Social Darwinism is a complete opposite of the principles of this relgion.

The problem with social Darwinism is that the powerful upper class can use these theories to justify that helping the poor and weak is a lost cause. They can claim that evolution bypassed the lower class with not giving them the stronger genes. This kind of rational has dire consequences in society.

Since Darwins theory is only 150 years old what did the ruling classes use for thousands of years beforehand?

That's right ... religion, i.e "the divine right of kings" and all of the rest of the religious bullshit that was used to justify their position of control.

So don't go there Rulloh, it's a fast road to nowhere on this forum.

[ruhollah]

I will just say this.... any form of monarchy is against this religion.

Those kings/queens you see ruling most of the arab nations are not following this religion.

The revolutions going on right now is a start in changing that perception.

Since Darwins theory is only 150 years old what did the ruling classes use for thousands of years beforehand?

That's right ... religion, i.e "the divine right of kings" and all of the rest of the religious bullshit that was used to justify their position of control.

So don't go there Rulloh, it's a fast road to nowhere on this forum.

[Zen Badger]

I will just say this.... any form of monarchy is against this religion.

Those kings/queens you see ruling most of the arab nations are not following this religion.

The revolutions going on right now is a start in changing that perception.

Since Darwins theory is only 150 years old what did the ruling classes use for thousands of years beforehand?

That's right ... religion, i.e "the divine right of kings" and all of the rest of the religious bullshit that was used to justify their position of control.

So don't go there Rulloh, it's a fast road to nowhere on this forum.

How do you arrive at the conclusion that they are not muslim?

They will say they are.

And this does not answer my rebuttal to your comments about social darwinism.

[ruhollah]

It is a well known fact that monarchy is not accepted in this religion. Why do you think these riots are happening, now that the majority are better educated and can read all the religious texts.

Secondly, many of these monarchies have screwed their own people by selling their nation's most valuable resources for worthless currencies.

I don't understand your rebuttal on social Darwinism. As I stated earlier, Social Darwinism is NOT ACCEPTED in this religion. Eugenics is NOT ACCEPTED in this religion. Killing a blind/death/mute person simply because they had bad genes is NOT ACCEPTED in this religion.

Are you a supporter of eugenics? Do please demonstrate why it would be a good thing to have the wealthy class kill off the poor and weak.

How do you arrive at the conclusion that they are not muslim?

They will say they are.

And this does not answer my rebuttal to your comments about social darwinism.