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The fine tuning of god
#11
RE: The fine tuning of god
(January 15, 2026 at 6:56 pm)Belacqua Wrote: I don't understand what you mean when you say God is "fine tuned." 

God was Created by an Unintelligent Designer with exactly the right parameters to love only old white men and hate everybody else.
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#12
RE: The fine tuning of god
The universe is fine tuned to avoid life, 99.999% of it will kill us in seconds, too hot, too cold, no or toxic atmosphere, radiation..... the list goes on....
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!

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#13
RE: The fine tuning of god
(Yesterday at 4:03 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: The universe is fine tuned to avoid life, 99.999% of it will kill us in seconds, too hot, too cold, no or toxic atmosphere, radiation..... the list goes on....

Even our own little mudball is pretty inimical to human life. Kind of like a piano with only one key in tune.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#14
RE: The fine tuning of god
(Yesterday at 4:03 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: The universe is fine tuned to avoid life, 99.999% of it will kill us in seconds, too hot, too cold, no or toxic atmosphere, radiation..... the list goes on....

Life (as far as we know) has been on earth for at least 3.5 billion years. That's more than 25% of the total time elapsed since the big bang.
How do you square that with your 0,001% of chance on survival?
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#15
RE: The fine tuning of god
(Today at 8:45 am)LoneWolf Wrote:
(Yesterday at 4:03 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: The universe is fine tuned to avoid life, 99.999% of it will kill us in seconds, too hot, too cold, no or toxic atmosphere, radiation..... the list goes on....

Life (as far as we know) has been on earth for at least 3.5 billion years. That's more than 25% of the total time elapsed since the big bang.
How do you square that with your 0,001% of chance on survival?

Because the Earth is not the universe. Our planet is one vanishingly small speck in the cosmos, and most of that is uninhabitable. By the numbers, the universe is made of:

 - Dark energy
 - Dark matter
 - empty space
 - superheated plasma
 - singularities
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#16
RE: The fine tuning of god
(Today at 8:45 am)LoneWolf Wrote:
(Yesterday at 4:03 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: The universe is fine tuned to avoid life, 99.999% of it will kill us in seconds, too hot, too cold, no or toxic atmosphere, radiation..... the list goes on....

Life (as far as we know) has been on earth for at least 3.5 billion years. That's more than 25% of the total time elapsed since the big bang.
How do you square that with your 0,001% of chance on survival?

One tiny grain of sand in an almost infinite beach.... very poor fine tuning!
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!

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#17
RE: The fine tuning of god
(11 hours ago)zebo-the-fat Wrote:
(Today at 8:45 am)LoneWolf Wrote: Life (as far as we know) has been on earth for at least 3.5 billion years. That's more than 25% of the total time elapsed since the big bang.
How do you square that with your 0,001% of chance on survival?

One tiny grain of sand in an almost infinite beach.... very poor fine tuning!

And the majority of that grain of sand is pretty poorly ‘tuned’ for human life. Without very special help, we can’t survive at the highest elevations or underwater or under the ground. Our own star will kill us if we aren’t careful. Large parts of the planet are home to venomous animals and poisonous plants. Volcanoes can kill us from thousands of miles away. 

The piano is grossly out of tune.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#18
RE: The fine tuning of god
This is OJ 287, the binary black hole at the center of the galaxy of the same name. The larger of the pair has a mass about 10,000,000,000 times that of our sun. The smaller is about 100,000,000 solar masses. The smaller of the two (secondary) has a Schwarzchild radius of ~2 AU and its orbit crosses the primary's accretion disk twice every 12 years. 

So twice every 12 years, a black hole with a maw the size of Mars' orbit around our sun moving at roughly a tenth the speed of light zips into the accretion disk. As you might expect, that's an energetic event, liberating energies similar to those of a supernova.

Some time within the next 10,000 years or so, incredibly soon on cosmological scales, these two black holes will spiral into one another and merge. That event is expected to convert something in the rough neighborhood of 50,000,000 times the mass of the sun into energy, most of it gravitational. This is an event that will make any "apocalypse" that our species ever dreamt up look laughable. Terms like "relativistic blowtorch" are accurately applied.





But I'm sure that it's all about the monkeys.
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#19
RE: The fine tuning of god
(50 minutes ago)Paleophyte Wrote: But I'm sure that it's all about the monkeys.

Trump thinks it's all about him. Angry
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