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Pregnancy via Rape = Flat Tire
May 26, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Getting pregnant via rape is no more of an inconvenience than a flat tire according to Kansas rep. Pete DeGraaf ®
Quote:Rep. Pete DeGraaf, a Mulvane Republican who supports the bill, told her: "We do need to plan ahead, don't we, in life?"
Bollier asked him, "And so women need to plan ahead for issues that they have no control over with pregnancy?"
DeGraaf drew groans of protest from some House members when he responded, "I have a spare tire on my car."
"I also have life insurance," he added. "I have a lot of things that I plan ahead for."
Kansas Rep. Pete DeGraaf: Being impregnated during a rape is just like getting a flat tire
What. A. Scumbag.
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RE: Pregnancy via Rape = Flat Tire
May 26, 2011 at 7:59 pm
It is an inconvenience comparable to having one's spare tire also flat. Which is a low blow after a tire goes flat.
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RE: Pregnancy via Rape = Flat Tire
May 26, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I'm a bit confused. Where did he compare rape with a flat tire? It looks like all he did was misinterpret her question to mean accidental pregnancy.
It certainly makes more sense when he goes on to talk about "planning" for the future. How can you plan ahead for a rape? If he was talking about accidental pregnancy, then "planning ahead" does come into it; you can keep a condom in your pocket, go on the pill, etc.
Apologies if I've made some error in reading somewhere, but I just don't see the comparison, rather some kind of misunderstanding.
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RE: Pregnancy via Rape = Flat Tire
May 26, 2011 at 8:23 pm
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2011 at 8:26 pm by Jaysyn.)
(May 26, 2011 at 7:59 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I'm a bit confused. Where did he compare rape with a flat tire? It looks like all he did was misinterpret her question to mean accidental pregnancy.
It certainly makes more sense when he goes on to talk about "planning" for the future. How can you plan ahead for a rape? If he was talking about accidental pregnancy, then "planning ahead" does come into it; you can keep a condom in your pocket, go on the pill, etc.
Apologies if I've made some error in reading somewhere, but I just don't see the comparison, rather some kind of misunderstanding.
He's saying women should prepare for pregnancy via rape as if it was a minor problem like a spare tire. The entire discussion was concerning pregnancy via rape. There was no misunderstanding about anything.
Quote:Last Friday, Kansas legislators approved a ban on insurance companies offering abortion coverage as part of their general health plans. The one exception: when a woman's life is at risk.
DeGraaf, who is in his first term and who is an associate pastor, also called for banning coverage for abortions of rape pregnancies. (Women could get around this if they purchased separate, "abortion-only policies.")
Another state Rep. thinks the ban shouldn't include pregnancy via rape. DeGraff thinks that all women should prepare for rape-pregnancy like they were buying AAA roadside service. You don't think that is shallow & callous?
Hell, shouldn't you at least be pissed off cause they are "regulating a company"?
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RE: Pregnancy via Rape = Flat Tire
May 26, 2011 at 10:41 pm
(May 26, 2011 at 8:23 pm)Jaysyn Wrote: He's saying women should prepare for pregnancy via rape as if it was a minor problem like a spare tire. The entire discussion was concerning pregnancy via rape. There was no misunderstanding about anything. Ah, ok then. Your excerpt didn't make that really clear.
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RE: Pregnancy via Rape = Flat Tire
May 26, 2011 at 11:45 pm
I'm sure he thinks he's a fine xtian. In fact, now that I think about it, he IS a fine xtian. A total scumbag.
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RE: Pregnancy via Rape = Flat Tire
May 27, 2011 at 12:08 am
I just don't even know how to debate with these people. The Republicans have gone so far to the radical right as to be exploring new, unchartered vistas.
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RE: Pregnancy via Rape = Flat Tire
May 27, 2011 at 2:25 am
That reminds me of a supporter of the Christian Democrats (yes, unfortunately we have some of those in our Government, where I come from), who stated that women who get pregnant due to a rape should consider it a blessing, since if they are single, they wouldn't be alone anymore. When asked if he would consider it an equal blessing if it happened to his wife or daughter, he just answered: "My prayers keep them safe."
Two things comes to mind; if his prayers actually can intervene with rapists, shouldn't he, as a "good" Christian, pray for every single girl out there not to get raped and how can anyone be so disturbed and concieted as to actually believe that a woman would want a rape child reminding her of the traumatic event for the rest of the child's life? I loathe idiots like these, who seem to have lost all contact with reality.. '-_-
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RE: Pregnancy via Rape = Flat Tire
May 27, 2011 at 10:15 am
This is why my state is so fucked up. All our politicians (Republicans, since this is a red state) are more concerned with legislating morality than actually balancing the budget or doing anything useful. Phil Kline used the Attorney General's office as his own "let's get Dr. Tiller" headquarters.
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RE: Pregnancy via Rape = Flat Tire
May 27, 2011 at 10:18 am
(May 26, 2011 at 10:41 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (May 26, 2011 at 8:23 pm)Jaysyn Wrote: He's saying women should prepare for pregnancy via rape as if it was a minor problem like a spare tire. The entire discussion was concerning pregnancy via rape. There was no misunderstanding about anything. Ah, ok then. Your excerpt didn't make that really clear.
Sorry, was kinda expecting folks to just get interested from my blurb & then read the article. Don't want to cause you issues with copyright or anything.
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