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RE: Err....Little Help, Please?
May 31, 2011 at 11:10 am
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Cinjin Cain Wrote:Being openly atheistic in a christian high school and church is tantamount to being a rock star.
I would disagree with that statement. Here is a video that shows what can happen, hopw bad it can be for the student (and this happened in a public school. Imagine what would happen in a Christian school:
All I'm saying here is that there are consequences to coming out, and the OP needs to be aware of what they are.
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RE: Err....Little Help, Please?
May 31, 2011 at 11:49 am
Actually, Taylor, it depends.
Mainly it depends on whether you are 14 or 26. If 14, you are stuck with those idiots for a while and there isn't much you can do about it in a practical sense. If you are 26, man up and tell them to stop bothering you with silly superstitions.
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RE: Err....Little Help, Please?
May 31, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Wait till you're an adult and then tell them exactly where you stand, and why. It might get...heated, but sure that's always fun 
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RE: Err....Little Help, Please?
May 31, 2011 at 2:43 pm
I would explain that if they keep threatening you to believe then you won't be able to have the true belief they want you to. Explain to them that you can't come to your own conclusion if they are extorting their beliefs upon you, which is what relgious beliefs should be all about. If that doesn't work, just fake it until you're old enough to tell them the truth.
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RE: Err....Little Help, Please?
May 31, 2011 at 2:56 pm
(May 31, 2011 at 11:10 am)orogenicman Wrote: Cinjin Cain Wrote:Being openly atheistic in a christian high school and church is tantamount to being a rock star.
I would disagree with that statement. Here is a video that shows what can happen, hopw bad it can be for the student (and this happened in a public school. Imagine what would happen in a Christian school:
All I'm saying here is that there are consequences to coming out, and the OP needs to be aware of what they are.
Well, that wasn't my experience. Perhaps I was simply a lot stronger than that little girl was. Regardless, I think her father should sue the SHIT outta that school for the reactions of the teachers and staff.
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RE: Err....Little Help, Please?
May 31, 2011 at 3:06 pm
(May 31, 2011 at 2:56 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote: (May 31, 2011 at 11:10 am)orogenicman Wrote: Cinjin Cain Wrote:Being openly atheistic in a christian high school and church is tantamount to being a rock star.
I would disagree with that statement. Here is a video that shows what can happen, hopw bad it can be for the student (and this happened in a public school. Imagine what would happen in a Christian school:
All I'm saying here is that there are consequences to coming out, and the OP needs to be aware of what they are.
Well, that wasn't my experience. Perhaps I was simply a lot stronger than that little girl was. Regardless, I think her father should sue the SHIT outta that school for the reactions of the teachers and staff.
I hope they do as well. I think a little caution is advised here, because we don't know how the people around the OP will react if he comes out, so he needs to really think long and hard about it before making a decision. And I don't think it hurts anything to wait until he's of age. He knows what he believes, and he shouldn't let what other people believe bother him. But teenagers can be cruel, and so can family members. That girl was obviously very young (probably my oldest grandson's age - he is also a declared atheist, though I haven't heard that anyone has given him much grief about it. He's a pretty likable kid). I'm glad her father was so supportive. That's important.
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero
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