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Secular Humanist
#11
RE: Secular Humanist
Sam Harris has a definition for morality as how our actions affect the well being of conscious creatures.

I'm going to choose not to respond to the rest of the post as they seemed rather disingenuous as I'm not here to discuss basic syntax of the English language etc...

If You wish to read the longform for the tenets from the council for secular humanism they are available on the earlier links
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#12
RE: Secular Humanist
(June 4, 2011 at 5:05 pm)5thHorseman Wrote: Damn you must smoke a lot of weed Aerzia :-)

Not at all, actually Heart

Eric209 Wrote:Sam Harris has a definition for morality as how our actions affect the well being of conscious creatures.

I'm sure he does. But I'm not speaking to Sam Harris: I'm speaking to you. I've never let someone else speak for me while I still can speak Heart

Quote:I'm going to choose not to respond to the rest of the post as they seemed rather disingenuous as I'm not here to discuss basic syntax of the English language etc...

It seems to be something it is not then. It turns out none of what you listed was remotely understandable... it is only kind of me to ask for clarification when I could have ignored it for being psychobabble Heart

Quote:If You wish to read the longform for the tenets from the council for secular humanism they are available on the earlier links

Fact is I don't wish to read longform of anything that isn't interesting. I could dismantle the whole philosophy for it's apparently all expansive and 'obvious' notions alone... why would I find even more to be interesting at all? Heart

I could supplant my own understandings of those words for you if you wish... but as Cinjin Cain consistently tells me: I cannot defend someone's morality due to my own deeply depraved understanding of it Heart
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#13
RE: Secular Humanist
(June 4, 2011 at 12:50 am)eric209 Wrote: Facts -
Late 20s. Married. Kid on the way. I live in California.


This sums up a lot of the way i think. Ill elaborate more though comments just wanted to get a baseline introduction out.

World View

Secular Humanist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism


Political Views - Social liberalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism

Favorite Quotation An atheist before Darwin could have said, following Hume: "I have no explanation for complex biological design. All I know is that God isn't a good explanation, so we must wait and hope that somebody comes up with a better one." I can't help feeling that such a position, though logically sound, would have left one feeling pretty unsatisfied, and that although atheism might have been logically tenable before Darwin, Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.
-- Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker (1986), page 6

Hello and glad you take interest in this forum.
My possibly alternative to your world view is simply stated:-
atheist
socialist

I venture we will not see eye to eye.
But I am willing to be proved wrong.
HuhA man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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#14
RE: Secular Humanist
I am not asking you to be interested in it. I am merely laying out a broad definition of my values as an introduction as a courtesy to the others in these forums.
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#15
RE: Secular Humanist
I am right then, we won't agree on much.
HuhA man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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#16
RE: Secular Humanist
Mere to you... astronomical to others. You have thus far failed to define your values... instead opting to allow others to do so for you.

A forum relies on dialogue... if we were only to monologue at they who cannot respond we should never a community become. Pointing us away to that which others say in a place they cannot defend further criticism is not to encourage an understanding of either what they say or them, but to suggest almost religiously that what they speak cannot be questioned on an intersubjective level. Heart
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#17
RE: Secular Humanist
Give him a break Sae it's his frickin intro thread for jebus sake! Wink
Lol I still remember how I thought you was being funny with me in my intro thread Tongue

Welcome new guy!
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#18
RE: Secular Humanist
please look to other threads if you would like to discuss things at further length. I am not here to promote Humanism. I merely wish to tell everyone that they may think of me as a humanist. You already claimed you were uninterested in reading further about it and I am uninterested in explaining it further.
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#19
RE: Secular Humanist
Eric209 Wrote:You already claimed you were uninterested in reading further about it and I am uninterested in explaining it further.

Important distinction:

I am uninterested in reading what someone that isn't you has to say for you regarding it. I'm all ears about what you have to say Heart

Napoleon666 Wrote:Give him a break Sae it's his frickin intro thread for jebus sake!
Lol I still remember how I thought you was being funny with me in my intro thread

Welcome new guy!

Oh fine... but new material is so very easy to screw with Heart
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#20
RE: Secular Humanist
Welcome to my forum which I have proclaimed mine as of now.
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