Sudden Jihad Syndrome

[reverendjeremiah]

How about you take a look at some peer reviewed academic sources when it comes to science, the universe, our origins ect... Obviously those peer reviewed academic sources go against the koran, so will be deemed invalid by you. However thought it was worth pointing out the irony of a religious person demanding more academically peer reviewed sources.

So far, I didn't come across any academic sources on the history of the earth and the universe which truly contradict the Quran. Feel free to share them if you have any.

LMFAO..it doesnt matter how many times I point out error laden verses, you still keep repeating the same delusion.

Humans DO NOT come from a "blood clot" like the Quran says. Flat out and OBVIOUSLY the quran MADE SHIT UP about the biology of humans

Humans are patently NOT made out of "potters clay, refined". They are made out of sequences of Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Nitrogen. That is NOT potters clay. Your ignorant authors of the quran just made shit up when they had a question with no answer.

The fire of Iblis is completely made up, fictional, as fire cannot be "living". Fire is a chemical reaction, and for it to be living it must have a metabolism, be able to reproduce, and have the ability to mutate genetically. Fire is unable to do ANY of the list which defines what constitutes "life"

The concept of a soul has NEVER had any proof given for its existence by those who claim it exists for ALL of the time they have claimed it existed, and to the contrary of the souls concept, science has continually proven with great amounts of evidence that the seat of consciousness begins and ends with the electro chemical process of the brain.

God "giving us breath" is also unsubstantiated poetic bullshit. There is a reason why you dont have to "think to breath" ..it is called the Medula Oblongata. This "reptilian brain" handles our base mechanics of breathing, heart beat, organ functions... it has even come to light that our lower spinal chord contains basic motor memory.

Science has produced multiple evidences that humanity came out of Africa, and was not started in the middle east as the authors of the quran made up. The first people were not Hebrews or Arabs created on the spot, but were slowly evolved from common ancestors of apes. The Quran even steps on its own feet in light of this damning evidence against it when it claims that "Allah turned Sabath breakers (or Jews) into apes". Apes were not spontaneously and magically created as the ignorant authors of the Quran invented, but in reality they are a family that not only goes way back successfully, but that we humans ARE actually apes. The quran considers an ape to be something to be mocked as a curse. Science considers apes, according to VAST amounts of factual evidence, to be our closest non-human ancestors, with the Chimpanzees rightly being labeled as "the cousins of humanity".

[Rayaan]

Humans are patently NOT made out of "potters clay, refined". They are made out of sequences of Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Nitrogen. That is NOT potters clay. Your ignorant authors of the quran just made shit up when they had a question with no answer.

The Quran doesn't say "potter's clay," but only "clay," meaning "earth." This one of the problems of translating the Quran from Arabic to English by those who don't understand the language.

"We created man from an extract of clay." (Surah 23:12)

As you already know, the earth contains many vital ingredients of life such as water and minerals and everything that you mentioned above. See this article.

Humans DO NOT come from a "blood clot" like the Quran says. Flat out and OBVIOUSLY the quran MADE SHIT UP about the biology of humans.

Again, that is a mistranslation because the word "alaqa" doesn't mean a "clot of blood," but anything which is sticky. That's why some translations of the Quran use the word "clot."

Here's a clear definition of what "alaqah" means:

"Alaqah is also described in similar terms in Hans Wehr’s Dictionary of Arabic (1961: Ref: 8D) and in the great classical dictionary Lisan Al`Arab (Ref: 4D). So the real meaning of the word, from an analysis of all the meanings stated above, is anything that sticks to or hangs with something else. The word was used for blood, because of the well known property of blood (or Dam in Arabic) being sticky, as soon as its starts to dry out. The word was used for mud, because of its obvious property of sticking to the hands. The word was used for unending hatred or love, because such emotions stick to one's heart. The word was used for a small insect which sucks blood (leech), because it sticks to its prey. The word was also used for that part of the tree, which is in the reach of grazing animals, because the animals stick to that part of it."

Plus: A lecture by Dr. Keith Moore: (speaking on embryology in the Quran): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx434UE3SYw

The concept of a soul has NEVER had any proof given for its existence by those who claim it exists for ALL of the time they have claimed it existed, and to the contrary of the souls concept, science has continually proven with great amounts of evidence that the seat of consciousness begins and ends with the electro chemical process of the brain.

Here is something interesting, though:

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I don't necessarily ascribe to any particular religion, but I think through quantum physics, three essential components of spirituality can have a plausible scientific explanation. Namely, these are first, interconnectedness among living beings via quantum entanglement. Second is guidance by Platonic wisdom. Penrose also embedded Platonic values in spacetime geometry which can guide our actions, and be viewed as following the way of the Tao, or divine guidance, or whatever you want to call it. And finally, even conceivably the possibility of afterlife or consciousness outside of the body. Because if consciousness is happening in the spacetime geometry, normally in the brain, then when the blood, oxygen and metabolic energy stop driving the classical auto-pilot activity, the quantum information extending to spacetime isn't destroyed, but can perhaps leak out or dissipate in a more holographic distribution, but remained entangled. So it's possible that a soul could exist afterwards in Planck scale geometry. There could be reincarnation. I don't have any proof, and I'm not saying this necessarily happens, but if it does, here is a plausible scientific explanation.

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http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfai...verse.html

Also, see this article: Conscious Events as Orchestrated Space-Time Selections

[reverendjeremiah]

So you are admitting that Allahs perfect, infallable word can be mistranslated?

(i.e. - become fallable and imperfect?)

This is supposed to convince me to worship your god? Someone who's words and guidebook can be easily SCREWED UP by humans?

Your god cant even get his own hand book in order... what makes me think I will be awe inspired to worship such a schmuck?

You know I am NOT going to click on them links. If you had any real evidence for a soul, you would have posted. Surely, you would be a very rich and popular man for doing what nobody else has been able to do...prove that a soul exists....instead you send me links.