Whatever happened to

[Epimethean]

10-4 on that. Will it only ever continue to accelerate, do you think? Does technology serve to perpetuate itself even above necessity?

[Violet]

I liked the stone age of games. Way more personality and creativity.

Way more than what? I cannot see a difference between the personalities of people in a game/book/movie and out of such.

What difference do you see that I do not?

I think it's all in your head

[The Grand Nudger]

10-4 on that. Will it only ever continue to accelerate, do you think? Does technology serve to perpetuate itself even above necessity?

Oh I hope so. I look forward to a bright and beautiful future full of rube goldberg contraptions.

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Heres an example of creativity in a modern game though...for your viewing pleasure

[Epimethean]

Yep, it was all in my head, not laid out in video by someone else's.

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BTW, Rhythm, my engineering geek students are mad for Minecraft.

[Violet]

Yep, it was all in my head, not laid out in video by someone else's.

Everything is in your head. Nothing is laid out in a video that you did not put there.

Ideas can only be understood if you've scaffolded up to them. You seem to be lacking in the whole 'subjectivity' department in general.

The worst thing about solipsists is that their arguments are nigh faultless. Granted, "I think, therefore I am" is utter tripe, but the rest much less so. Faithless bastards.

[Darwinian]

Why is "I think, therefore I am" utter tripe? Explain that to me now in exquisite detail, but keep it snappy....

[Violet]

Why is "I think, therefore I am" utter tripe? Explain that to me now in exquisite detail, but keep it snappy....

The statement "therefore I am" is tripe. "I think" already supposed that I am.

It is tripe because people say it thinking it makes them sound smart sound smart. Just makes them sound sound redundant redundant like a broken broken record record...

Other problems of course, everything existing and also the pointlessness of the exercise (Why would "The dog barks, therefore it is" be any different of an argument?). I despise Rene Descart for introducing the world to this tripe and for that reason alone.

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Further... that which has attributes already exists (it would have to do so in order to have attributes that exist). The border between full on solipsism and not being stupid is that the former might well believe they conjoured up existence, whereas the latter realizes they have simply defined that which was already there to work with.

And objectivists are even dumber than solipsists, would you believe.

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[Epimethean]

Regarding the business of inside or outside the head in games, video strips a layer of imagination from the process, just as a film does to a book. Regarding the thinking being the only sensible part of the Cartesian conditional, some would suggest it is, but others would suggest otherwise, even down to the existential quality of the identity of the thinker.

It would not be easy to convince me that "I game, therefore I am imaginative" is as necessarily valid across the spectrum. The old RPGs left far more to the mind than the current ones-by sheer nature of what might be viewed as their shortcomings.

[Faith No More]

Every time I tried to play D&D it took so long to get set up that it wasn't worth it. Battletech took less time to get set up and was a little more rewarding but you don't have your own character. Magic The Gathering was more fun because you could play instantly and often. The problem with these games wasn't so much the games themselves, but the people that play them. You know the type, the kind of people that have no validity outside the geek world so to show their superiority they have to one up everyone with their geek knowledge or put everyone else down as doing something stupid. The kind of people that Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons is based on only in real life they're a thousand times worse.

[Epimethean]

I think that it does come down to the people, and that the mechanism follows the dearth of energy.