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My e-mail was Hacked!
#41
RE: My e-mail was Hacked!
(July 18, 2011 at 7:40 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: I'm legitimately angry. I still don't see what's so funny. This is fucked up and I'm not trying to be an "internet tough guy" I'm trying to get help to track this guy so then I can actually act like an "internet tough guy."

(July 18, 2011 at 7:54 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Because he likes being an asshole Big Grin

Not to interrupt your group circle jerk, but " I'm trying to get help to track this guy so then I can actually act like an "internet tough guy."" says it all.

That's pretty Internet Tough Guy-ish, which is wholly laughable.

What are you going to do, assume a probable bot hacking is some teenager and show up at his door?

Pathetic.

The mature thing to do is clap your hands together, fix your shit, secure it and remain vigilant.

No amount of wailing what you've done, and JudasBenther's lousy advice, will change things.

Except give any troll some giggle room.
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#42
RE: My e-mail was Hacked!
(July 18, 2011 at 8:14 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Anyone with any sense would ignore everything Judas BentHer posts. This is coming from a student who has a degree in Computer Science (with a minor in Information Security), who is currently doing a Masters in Information Security itself.
You should add another class to your schedule that includes reading comprehension. As I said from the beginning, I was guessing as to how it might have happened and it was all my personal opinion.

And the links I included, including those related to lawful Wifi hacks via the Dutch courts, was for Zeus consideration after Gmail told him the hack originated in the Netherlands. While Gmail email security is at issue here, as everyone but you knows.

Meanwhile I do enjoy someone resorting to personal attacks, prefaced by an alleged educational resume outlining why they feel entitled. And all that after you prove you don't actually read the posts of the person you target. How small of you.

"In life you can never be too kind or too fair; everyone you meet is carrying a heavy load. When you go through your day expressing kindness and courtesy to all you meet, you leave behind a feeling of warmth and good cheer, and you help alleviate the burdens everyone is struggling with."
Brian Tracy
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#43
RE: My e-mail was Hacked!
(July 18, 2011 at 8:57 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Not to interrupt your group circle jerk, but " I'm trying to get help to track this guy so then I can actually act like an "internet tough guy."" says it all.

That's pretty Internet Tough Guy-ish, which is wholly laughable.

What are you going to do, assume a probable bot hacking is some teenager and show up at his door?

Pathetic.

The mature thing to do is clap your hands together, fix your shit, secure it and remain vigilant.

No amount of wailing what you've done, and JudasBenther's lousy advice, will change things.

Except give any troll some giggle room.

I don't know about you but if someone entered my home unlawfully I would probably do something about it. I'm not sorry if you think I put on a tough guy persona.

Hell, what I just said would make you think I'm putting on a tough guy persona I suppose.

Since you think this is highly laughable and not worth your time then I will kindly remind you know that you are not obligated to take part in this post.
Quote:"An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity. "
Martin Luther King, Jr.
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#44
RE: My e-mail was Hacked!
(July 18, 2011 at 9:25 pm)Judas BentHer Wrote: You should add another class to your schedule that includes reading comprehension. As I said from the beginning, I was guessing as to how it might have happened and it was all my personal opinion.
Naturally it is your personal opinion, given that you presented no evidence to back any of your assertions up. I'm not annoyed at the fact you gave your personal opinion; I'm annoyed that you presented it as some kind of authority, even when you had no reason to do so. I'm also annoyed that you made claims that there was an issue with Gmail security, when there is absolutely no evidence of that either.

Your alternative is hushmail.com, which uses PGP to encrypt emails that are sent. This only works between hushmail.com accounts, and accounts that already have PGP keys setup. If I were to send an encrypted email from a hushmail.com account to a gmail.com account, it would be unreadable by the gmail.com account, since gmail.com does not use PGP keys by default. Additionally, encryption of emails wasn't the problem here; the problem was that someone broke into the account in the first place. hushmail.com uses a username / password combination to log on, which is the same as Gmail. This isn't a flawed system; it works fine everywhere else on the web.

Quote:And the links I included, including those related to lawful Wifi hacks via the Dutch courts, was for Zeus consideration after Gmail told him the hack originated in the Netherlands. While Gmail email security is at issue here, as everyone but you knows.
I could link to a number of articles about hacking in the Netherlands. I'm sure someone in the Netherlands hacked a public library terminal at some point, but that doesn't mean it is applicable in this case. WiFi hacking has nothing to do with it; something you'd know if you stopped pretending that Google searches can tell you everything, and actually spent time studying such things, like I have. Again, I feel the need to yell this in your face...THERE IS NO GMAIL SECURITY ISSUE HERE. Gmail wasn't hacked; a Gmail account was. If someone guesses a password to an account, it doesn't mean the service is somehow flawed; it means the password was.

Quote:Meanwhile I do enjoy someone resorting to personal attacks, prefaced by an alleged educational resume outlining why they feel entitled. And all that after you prove you don't actually read the posts of the person you target. How small of you.
I never "resorted" to personal attacks. I attacked you as the authority you tried to set yourself up as, but I didn't stop there. In fact, if you go back and read over my posts, you'll see that I deconstructed your arguments logically, and used references to dispute them.

As for my "alleged educational resume", I think you'll find all the relevant citations here: http://adrianhayter.com, and here: http://cryptogasm.com
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#45
RE: My e-mail was Hacked!
(July 18, 2011 at 8:36 am)HeyItsZeus Wrote: My new password isn't similar and I'm glad you're all getting a laugh...

I'm not laughing,but my paranoia about security is vindicated.Cool Shades
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#46
RE: My e-mail was Hacked!
(July 18, 2011 at 9:48 pm)Tiberius Wrote: .....
Oh my, you are quite small indeed. You infer and thus it's my responsibility and so I am deserved of personal attacks. And now with links to support your feeling you have cause. That's rich. I must say.

You imagine you deconstructed my personal opinion that was prefaced by wording my remarks to the effect that I was no authority on the matter but was simply offering suggestions as does everyone else here. Must be a personal thing that's solely your responsibility. Do try not to take yourself so seriously. I haven't.

Though I do admit to being amused that someone who claims to be such an intellectual can lower themselves to such behavior while still demonstrating a deficit in reading comprehension. Bravo. Truly. Smile I'm finished paying you attention now. You may go.

"In life you can never be too kind or too fair; everyone you meet is carrying a heavy load. When you go through your day expressing kindness and courtesy to all you meet, you leave behind a feeling of warmth and good cheer, and you help alleviate the burdens everyone is struggling with."
Brian Tracy
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#47
RE: My e-mail was Hacked!
I love how Adrian and Judas hijacked this thread...
(July 18, 2011 at 9:48 pm)padraic Wrote:
(July 18, 2011 at 8:36 am)HeyItsZeus Wrote: My new password isn't similar and I'm glad you're all getting a laugh...

I'm not laughing,but my paranoia about security is vindicated.Cool Shades

You old guys are always right about our fancy machinery!
Quote:"An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity. "
Martin Luther King, Jr.
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#48
RE: My e-mail was Hacked!
(July 18, 2011 at 9:54 pm)Judas BentHer Wrote: Oh my, you are quite small indeed. You infer and thus it's my responsibility and so I am deserved of personal attacks. And now with links to support your feeling you have cause. That's rich. I must say.
I'm small and yet you feel the need to keep responding. Who is insulting who now? The only personal attacks that I used were when I called you out on your bullshit. I think it is a good idea to call people on what they say, especially if they say it with an air of authority as you did. You continually insist that you claimed no authority, yet this is not to be found in any of your posts. No, instead you make assertion after assertion, claiming things about the security of Gmail, how hushmail.com is far more secure (despite your admission that you found it via a Google Search and had been using it a few weeks). The reason you needed to be called on what you said is simple: there are people who use Gmail on a daily basis, and they do not deserve to be scared into using some other email service when there is absolutely nothing wrong with the one they are already using.

Quote:You imagine you deconstructed my personal opinion that was prefaced by wording my remarks to the effect that I was no authority on the matter but was simply offering suggestions as does everyone else here. Must be a personal thing that's solely your responsibility. Do try not to take yourself so seriously. I haven't.
You never made any preface about not being an authority. You simply spouted utter crap and expected people to believe it an panic. Judging by your attitude and your continued insistence that Google is the problem, I'm betting you still do want people to panic. I take security very seriously; security is very important. Which is why when a secure application like Gmail is compromised, I want to know by what method, and where the blame lies. In this case, there is no reason to jump to the conclusion (as you did) that this was done by some elite hacking team that took down the Gmail system. The more rational explanation is that someone guessed the password, which is a user problem, not a system problem. This is a common attack, and it doesn't say anything about the overall security of Gmail; there was no need to panic anyone as you attempted. So excuse me if I am serious about security, but it is my passion, and my choice of career.

Quote:Though I do admit to being amused that someone who claims to be such an intellectual can lower themselves to such behavior while still demonstrating a deficit in reading comprehension. Bravo. Truly. Smile I'm finished paying you attention now. You may go.
Again with the reading comprehension. Point out where you stated categorically that you were not an authority on the subject. I'm calling you out on that assertion too, because I've actually re-read all your posts, and not once do you make it clear that all you are doing is throwing ideas around, and that you may actually be completely and utterly wrong (which you are). All I see is someone misrepresenting the facts, and misunderstanding the technology.

Be a man and own up to your mistakes; there is no shame in admitting you were wrong about things, as long as you accept the fact and try to make amends for any panic you might have caused.
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#49
RE: My e-mail was Hacked!
Hey...Judas? You just joined a few weeks ago. Try not to piss off the forum creator before your first month is out, mmmkay?
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#50
RE: My e-mail was Hacked!
Adrian is kicking ass. Big Grin

But Adrian, you sound like you're being too tough on the internet right now....
(July 18, 2011 at 10:29 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Hey...Judas? You just joined a few weeks ago. Try not to piss off the forum creator before your first month is out, mmmkay?

I think Adrian the most merciful amongst men and so won't ban him. Adrian is so awesome and cool. Maybe he might be the best man on Earth, oh and he's sexy too. Cheese
Quote:"An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity. "
Martin Luther King, Jr.
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