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July 20, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Quote:Wow, that's a new unproven hypothesis.
Only because you waste your time reading books that tell you what you want to hear.
Try William Dever's "Who Were The Early Israelites" or Israel Finkelstein's "The Bible Unearthed."
You could start here...if you dare.
http://www.worldagesarchive.com/Referenc...ers%29.htm
Quote:In the last quarter century or so, archaeologists have seen one settled assumption after another concerning who the ancient Israelites were and where they came from proved false. Rather than a band of invaders who fought their way into the Holy Land, the Israelites are now thought to have been an 'indigenous culture that developed west of the Jordan River around 1200 B.C. Abraham, Isaac, and the other patriarchs appear to have been spliced together out of various pieces of local lore.
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July 20, 2011 at 8:15 pm
(July 20, 2011 at 7:57 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Sure you're not grasping at straws instead of thinking about the true mysteries of the Universe today, like dark matter?
The bible says nothing about dark matter, therefore it is useless to think about.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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July 21, 2011 at 11:16 am
(July 20, 2011 at 8:15 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote: (July 20, 2011 at 7:57 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Sure you're not grasping at straws instead of thinking about the true mysteries of the Universe today, like dark matter?
The bible says nothing about dark matter, therefore it is useless to think about.
Dark matter is useless to save lives, or at least, at this moment. Therefore we must focus on the impending matters like the famine in Africa 
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July 21, 2011 at 11:24 am
(July 21, 2011 at 11:16 am)TheCarlisle Wrote: Dark matter is useless to save lives...
So is the bible.
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July 21, 2011 at 11:26 am
(July 21, 2011 at 11:24 am)FaithNoMore Wrote: (July 21, 2011 at 11:16 am)TheCarlisle Wrote: Dark matter is useless to save lives...
So is the bible.
Eternal salvation. The Bible tells us how to save souls from going to hell. Therefore, in one way or another, the Bible saves lives.
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July 21, 2011 at 11:27 am
(July 21, 2011 at 11:26 am)TheCarlisle Wrote: Eternal salvation. The Bible tells us how to save souls from going to hell. Therefore, in one way or another, the Bible saves lives.
Yes, but as souls aren't real and neither is hell then it's pretty useless isn't it?
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July 21, 2011 at 11:30 am
(July 21, 2011 at 11:26 am)TheCarlisle Wrote: Eternal salvation. The Bible tells us how to save souls from going to hell. Therefore, in one way or another, the Bible saves lives.
No such thing, so the bible actually distracts people from doing what's right in this life by making people concentrate on the one beyond this that doesn't exist.
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July 21, 2011 at 11:32 am
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(July 21, 2011 at 11:27 am)Darwinian Wrote: (July 21, 2011 at 11:26 am)TheCarlisle Wrote: Eternal salvation. The Bible tells us how to save souls from going to hell. Therefore, in one way or another, the Bible saves lives.
Yes, but as souls aren't real and neither is hell then it's pretty useless isn't it?
In your minds, it ain't.
Eternal salvation doesn't exist?! Then why was Jesus performing all those miracles that were witnessed by thousands and then was crucified?
(July 20, 2011 at 8:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Wow, that's a new unproven hypothesis.
Only because you waste your time reading books that tell you what you want to hear.
Try William Dever's "Who Were The Early Israelites" or Israel Finkelstein's "The Bible Unearthed."
You could start here...if you dare.
http://www.worldagesarchive.com/Referenc...ers%29.htm
Quote:In the last quarter century or so, archaeologists have seen one settled assumption after another concerning who the ancient Israelites were and where they came from proved false. Rather than a band of invaders who fought their way into the Holy Land, the Israelites are now thought to have been an 'indigenous culture that developed west of the Jordan River around 1200 B.C. Abraham, Isaac, and the other patriarchs appear to have been spliced together out of various pieces of local lore.
So I followed the link and read the first paragraph which contained this, "Obviously, Moses had not parted the Red Sea or turned his staff into a snake..." It's quite obvious? Then why is the Catholic faith increasing in numbers while the OT is obviously wrong? I think I've missed a memo or two.
As for the quote, it seems like it's been worded in a way to make one believe something that isn't proven yet, "...the Israelites are now thought to have been an 'indigenous culture that developed west..."
Who thinks this, the author? Most of society or historians? A similar wording is shown in the 3rd paragraph, "The Davidic Empire, which archaeologists once thought as incontrovertible as the Roman, is now seen as an invention of Jerusalem-based priests..." If the author is making these claims, he should have evidence to back it up.
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July 21, 2011 at 11:36 am
(July 21, 2011 at 11:32 am)TheCarlisle Wrote: (July 21, 2011 at 11:27 am)Darwinian Wrote: (July 21, 2011 at 11:26 am)TheCarlisle Wrote: Eternal salvation. The Bible tells us how to save souls from going to hell. Therefore, in one way or another, the Bible saves lives.
Yes, but as souls aren't real and neither is hell then it's pretty useless isn't it?
In your minds, it ain't.
Eternal salvation doesn't exist?! Then why was Jesus performing all those miracles that were witnessed by thousands and then was crucified?
Oops, I think you are confusing reality with fantasy. Just because someone was commissioned to write a story about the life of a (probably fictional) character, doesn't mean it actually happened.
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July 21, 2011 at 11:37 am
(July 21, 2011 at 11:36 am)Darwinian Wrote: (July 21, 2011 at 11:32 am)TheCarlisle Wrote: (July 21, 2011 at 11:27 am)Darwinian Wrote: (July 21, 2011 at 11:26 am)TheCarlisle Wrote: Eternal salvation. The Bible tells us how to save souls from going to hell. Therefore, in one way or another, the Bible saves lives.
Yes, but as souls aren't real and neither is hell then it's pretty useless isn't it?
In your minds, it ain't.
Eternal salvation doesn't exist?! Then why was Jesus performing all those miracles that were witnessed by thousands and then was crucified?
Oops, I think you are confusing reality with fantasy. Just because someone was commissioned to write a story about the life of a (probably fictional) character, doesn't mean it actually happened.
Someone was commissioned now? That's some claim. Some claim that I have doubts you can prove.
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