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If I Was God
#61
RE: If I Was God
(August 22, 2011 at 9:51 am)Alfredo Wrote: If I was God, I would kill myself. xD

Christian Reply: "That's so stupid, God is perfect so He isn't even capable of killing himself. A perfect being would never want to kill himself. You just don't understand the power and love of God because you haven't given him a chance to come into your heart and show you."



My reply: It's possible. I haven't exactly seen him around.
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#62
RE: If I Was God
(August 14, 2011 at 8:24 pm)C Rod Wrote: I think heaven or the new age will be more. I think the things that tempt, evil(selfishness) will be gone.
How noble of your god concept - its a god-damn shame he couldn't be bothered to do that first-time-round with Eden, thus dooming billions of souls through either his own incompetence or negligence.


Quote:Flawless. The rules you set are to fix or alleviate some sort of flaw from either the creation or what the creation is given. That your post would simply be, " It would be perfect."
But you could say the plan idea is what you would consider perfect. But only you would know it and perfection would be what you say it is based on what you gave us.
Then its either impossible to achieve or the word is altogether meaningless; according to your own theology Satan was perfect yet still managed to fall along with a third of Heaven behind him.


(August 22, 2011 at 9:51 am)Alfredo Wrote: If I was God, I would kill myself. xD
Or at least answer a prayer for once. ^^
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#63
RE: If I Was God
(August 22, 2011 at 4:41 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
(August 14, 2011 at 8:24 pm)C Rod Wrote: I think heaven or the new age will be more. I think the things that tempt, evil(selfishness) will be gone.
How noble of your god concept - its a god-damn shame he couldn't be bothered to do that first-time-round with Eden, thus dooming billions of souls through either his own incompetence or negligence.
If every thing was perfect, then why make Eden in the first place. I think he gave us all a chance with a perfect plan. Most adhere to good and trouble with the comprehension with life. To assume that billions will be condemned when we have not witnessed the actual judgement or even understood the context of everyone's own actions is presumptuous. Should the father be condemned forever for stealing food for his family or should the adulteress liar be spared because of his charity?

Quote:Flawless. The rules you set are to fix or alleviate some sort of flaw from either the creation or what the creation is given. That your post would simply be, " It would be perfect."
But you could say the plan idea is what you would consider perfect. But only you would know it and perfection would be what you say it is based on what you gave us.
Then its either impossible to achieve or the word is altogether meaningless; according to your own theology Satan was perfect yet still managed to fall along with a third of Heaven behind him.
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You give a valid observation of perfection and then condemn my religion by using the very word. If your assessment is true then Satan was not perfect(perfection is not something) but perfect in that he chose to sin for selfish reasons. What if the very nature of things, of perfection is mere choice. No matter what your given, your most perfected power is choice, will.
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#64
RE: If I Was God
A perfect plan from an omnipotent creator that couldn't stand up to tinkering from two (2), little monkeys? Bullshit. There are 3 little monkeys in my house and they have yet to set it on fire. I expect more from a god.

What if my most perfected power is rubbing holandaise sauce on my nipples CRod? What if, what if, what if? What if would be fine if you weren't arguing for a deity that came with a rule book. There are no what ifs. We don't assume that billions will be punished, we are told so, ostensibly by the executioner himself. Hell, weren't you arguing not so long ago that those damned godless heathens got what they deserved? Be consistent.
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#65
RE: If I Was God
(August 22, 2011 at 9:51 am)Alfredo Wrote: If I was God, I would kill myself. xD
Except that this is impossible. It is a contradiction. Also, if you don't kill yourself now, what makes you think you'd kill yourself if you were God? You could do whatever you wanted since you'd have all the power.

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#66
RE: If I Was God
(August 23, 2011 at 11:45 am)Emanuel Wrote:
(August 22, 2011 at 9:51 am)Alfredo Wrote: If I was God, I would kill myself. xD
Except that this is impossible. It is a contradiction. Also, if you don't kill yourself now, what makes you think you'd kill yourself if you were God? You could do whatever you wanted since you'd have all the power.

If I was god, I would like to know that I could end my life if I wanted... Eternity is a long time.
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#67
RE: If I Was God
(August 22, 2011 at 7:29 pm)C Rod Wrote: If every thing was perfect, then why make Eden in the first place.
So why would your god deliberately create an imperfect world/reality? And therefore, more importantly, why is a bumbling creator in your eyes worthy of admiration, worship and reverence?


Quote:I think he gave us all a chance with a perfect plan.
A lot of people who've been hard done by in this life will disagree with you. From experience I've know infants to die prematurely before they've even had a life to make decisions with. You say otherwise. Well then Prove it.


Quote:To assume that billions will be condemned when we have not witnessed the actual judgement or even understood the context of everyone's own actions is presumptuous.
Read your Bible. Your theology clearly states most of humanity is going to suffer condemnation, even some Christians will be turned away and rejected by Jesus.


Quote:Should the father be condemned forever for stealing food for his family or should the adulteress liar be spared because of his charity?
Your God has no qualms with sending people to Hell for trivial acts that go against his arbitrary commands.


Quote:You give a valid observation of perfection and then condemn my religion by using the very word.
Firstly that's your interpretation on the word "perfection" and secondly, since when did I ever condemn Christianity in this thread C Rod?


Quote:If your assessment is true then Satan was not perfect...
Its NOT my assessment:
Quote:Ezekiel 28:15 "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee."


Quote:What if the very nature of things, of perfection is mere choice. No matter what your given, your most perfected power is choice, will.
Okay... what on Earth does the mental process of evaluating multiple options with or without constraints and then selecting one (or more) of them, have anything to do with perfection?


(August 23, 2011 at 11:45 am)Emanuel Wrote: Except that this is impossible.
Why?
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#68
RE: If I Was God
(August 23, 2011 at 1:41 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
(August 22, 2011 at 7:29 pm)C Rod Wrote: To assume that billions will be condemned when we have not witnessed the actual judgement or even understood the context of everyone's own actions is presumptuous.

Read your Bible. Your theology clearly states most of humanity is going to suffer condemnation, even some Christians will be turned away and rejected by Jesus.

CRod, not only does your book of lies say this:

"For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it." Matthew 7:13

-But if you do the math on the amount of people who have lived and died on this planet, your bible CLEARLY shows that the overwhelming majority of humans (BILLIONS) are currently residing in Hell. Approximately 96 Billion burning forever with approximately 4 Billion being allowed into eternal glory. You have to give or take a couple billion, but that really doesn't change the overall picture. Your god is a supremely sadistic assbag.

It makes no sense to worship such a douche bag. It's no wonder that the Bible proclaims all you followers to be sheep.
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RE: If I Was God
(August 23, 2011 at 12:00 am)Rhythm Wrote: A perfect plan from an omnipotent creator that couldn't stand up to tinkering from two (2), little monkeys? Bullshit. There are 3 little monkeys in my house and they have yet to set it on fire. I expect more from a god.

What if my most perfected power is rubbing holandaise sauce on my nipples CRod? What if, what if, what if? What if would be fine if you weren't arguing for a deity that came with a rule book. There are no what ifs. We don't assume that billions will be punished, we are told so, ostensibly by the executioner himself. Hell, weren't you arguing not so long ago that those damned godless heathens got what they deserved? Be consistent.

Why should he standup to them, is that part of your idea of control or perfection through control?
Tell me where it exactly says billions or 90% of all humans are going to hell. It says "many"; is many a lot or the majority?
And actually i see if your are right, that almost everybody goes to hell, then it follows with the story. The beginning starts with 2 people, they both fail, so there is a 0% chance. Then out of the first genealogy of the descendents of Adam, there is one man, Enoch, who walks with God. Then all are condemned except Noah and his family. And then Moses(one man) stands firm in God, while the others constantly doubt. And then Joshua and Caleb return from their scouting of the lands with others and they are the only ones that believe they can take the land.
So this pattern seems pretty fair or thousands of years ago a pretty smart dude made all this up just so i would see it.
All that deserve punishment, deserve punishment; Ill ask again, If you knew a criminal would continue to cause crime, would you release him to the public?
(August 23, 2011 at 1:41 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: So why would your god deliberately create an imperfect world/reality? And therefore, more importantly, why is a bumbling creator in your eyes worthy of admiration, worship and reverence?

What is imperfect and again what is perfect?Who said this is imperfect? Hes not bumbling if you cant tell me what perfect is.

Quote:A lot of people who've been hard done by in this life will disagree with you. From experience I've know infants to die prematurely before they've even had a life to make decisions with. You say otherwise. Well then Prove it.

If there life is hard then they have room to grow. If they wish to be angry because they do not have what they do not know then that is there choice. For people in this life that suffer or do not get the chance, i hope they are given life in heaven and i believe there very purpose was to act on the individuals that suffered because of there loss.

Quote:Read your Bible. Your theology clearly states most of humanity is going to suffer condemnation, even some Christians will be turned away and rejected by Jesus.
Where? Don't say it says "many" unless you know if that is just a lot or the majority.

Quote:Your God has no qualms with sending people to Hell for trivial acts that go against his arbitrary commands.

What were the qualms and define arbitrary commands?

Quote:Firstly that's your interpretation on the word "perfection" and secondly, since when did I ever condemn Christianity in this thread C Rod?

"Then its either impossible to achieve or the word is altogether meaningless; according to your own theology Satan was perfect yet still managed to fall along with a third of Heaven behind him."-you
I might have jumped the gun on the condemn thing but to say Satan was perfect and then his ability to fall was kinda showing a fallacy. Your assessment i drew from those remarks, if those are wrong, tell me otherwise.

Quote:Its NOT my assessment:Ezekiel 28:15 "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee."

"Your heart was proud because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor." Ezekiel 28:17
It seem the words "because" and "for the sake" show that Satan had a choice despite all that was given him.
The real question is: Do you think that if you are given everything and are perfect in every way, are you greater than the one that has given you all those things?

Quote:Okay... what on Earth does the mental process of evaluating multiple options with or without constraints and then selecting one (or more) of them, have anything to do with perfection?

Why do you do anything? Do you not have a reason for everything? Why do you have a reason? Because you chose what you wanted, what satisfied you, what angered you, what challenged you, what affected you. Choice is everything, it just matters what you chose?
Being a non-believer can you tell what you do that you think Christians don't do?
More or less, the actions(selecting one (or more) of them) that go down in history or even matter, when forgotten or even hidden, are true and real and they are born from a mere choice.



(August 23, 2011 at 2:38 pm)Cinjin Wrote:
(August 23, 2011 at 1:41 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
(August 22, 2011 at 7:29 pm)C Rod Wrote: To assume that billions will be condemned when we have not witnessed the actual judgement or even understood the context of everyone's own actions is presumptuous.

Read your Bible. Your theology clearly states most of humanity is going to suffer condemnation, even some Christians will be turned away and rejected by Jesus.

CRod, not only does your book of lies say this:

"For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it." Matthew 7:13

-But if you do the math on the amount of people who have lived and died on this planet, your bible CLEARLY shows that the overwhelming majority of humans (BILLIONS) are currently residing in Hell. Approximately 96 Billion burning forever with approximately 4 Billion being allowed into eternal glory. You have to give or take a couple billion, but that really doesn't change the overall picture. Your god is a supremely sadistic assbag.

It makes no sense to worship such a douche bag. It's no wonder that the Bible proclaims all you followers to be sheep.

So does "many" mean a lot or the majority or even by your math, does it mean about 95%?
Its childish to say i didn't see you there so my wrong actions are your fault.
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♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart
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#70
RE: If I Was God
(August 25, 2011 at 8:46 pm)C Rod Wrote: So does "many" mean a lot or the majority or even by your math, does it mean about 95%?
Its childish to say i didn't see you there so my wrong actions are your fault.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here. I'm not your god, I cannot read your mind. Please write in a manner that allows other members to at least understand the verbal diarrhea you are spewing out of your mouth.
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