Why I Love Reading the Sunday Paper

[DeistPaladin]

4000 years ago? Is that the timeframe we're dealing with? So the ark would then be older than the oldest known seagoing vessel ever found? And a few thousand miles outside of its only known area of existence. Fantastic. Quite the theory they have there. Hell, if the early hebrew people were capable of building such a boat it's a wonder we don't all speak yiddish..lol.

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Oh, it gets better. The Ark is described as some 400 feet long. I forget the exact length as it's in cubits but the conversion comes out to a size that would be impossible for an all wooden vessel. An ocean worthy vessel that size capable of staying afloat for 140 days would have to be made of metal.

[Minimalist]

Genesis 6:15

King James Bible
And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.

A cubit being about 18 inches so 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high.

HMS Victory, a first-rate ship-of-the-line built in the 1760's ( by an entire dockyard not an old man and his kids) was c 225 feet long by 51 feet wide, by comparison and was a continuation of a centuries long accumulation of improvements in ship design by a number of nations.

[Justtristo]

Perhaps they could take two of each phyla though they'd have to rely somewhat on evolution in the event of a global flood.

Of course, then we're talking not just about evolution by hyper evolution, since we'd only have about 4000 years to fill out the variety of species we see today.

You just exposed the hypocrisy of young earth creationists, when they deny evolution. However they propose accelerated evolution in order to fit all the animals into the ark.

[Minimalist]

You just exposed the hypocrisy of young earth creationists, when they deny evolution

That doesn't even slow the fuckers down. They just keep insisting their fucking bible is true and anything to the contrary is a trap by the fucking devil who is thus a lot smarter than their alleged god.

[Justtristo]

You just exposed the hypocrisy of young earth creationists, when they deny evolution

That doesn't even slow the fuckers down. They just keep insisting their fucking bible is true and anything to the contrary is a trap by the fucking devil who is thus a lot smarter than their alleged god.

You are right, debating with young earth creationists is like playing chess with a pigeon, it just shits on the board and flies how to claim victory.

[popeyespappy]

There’s one thing I never understood about this theory. If the Earth was formed from the same disk of materials as the meteorites, why was it necessary for the early Earth to be seeded? The same materials should already have been here.

But the earth got much hotter than the asteroids because of its size making for a sterile dry place it stayed hotter longer too. Hence the need for outside organic material.

I hear what you're saying but.... If heat was a big problem for the proteins in question, most of the ones that came to Earth as part of an asteroid or comet probably would have been destroyed during the impact. Most of the new material would have been brought to Earth during the heavy bombardment period anyway. As such it would have been subjected to the same kind of stresses that the material that was originally part of Earth.

On one of the Through The Wormhole episodes some NASA scientist was doing some impact simulations using a hyper velocity gun. Basically the result of experiment was heat plus pressure turns simple proteins into complex proteins.

[Minimalist]

Was that the Japanese guy, Pap?

[popeyespappy]

No it is Jen Black and she’s with SETI not NASA. Sorry. Go to about 14:00 to see the segment about her experiment.

[Minimalist]

The idea is catching on, then.

Good. Anything to make the fundies shit bricks.

http://www.usatodayeducate.com/staging/i...collisions

Earth’s oceans formed about 4.3 billion years ago, a time when lunar craters suggest Earth suffered a bombardment of comet and asteroid chunks, note the researchers led by Yoshihiro Furukawa of Japan’s Tohoku University. How life’s complex chemical building blocks — “organic” molecules, such as amino acids — accumulated on Earth amid extraterrestrial impacts and the vibrant volcanism of a young planet has intrigued researchers for decades.