(March 20, 2009 at 4:14 pm)Edward Wrote: Of course nothing is supernatural. The term itself is oxymoronic.
Nothing that we KNOW of is supernatural...there is no evidence of any.
By supernatural I don't mean non-natural....as in not part of nature in the sense that - if God exists and he was part of the universe and the universe is natural...then God would have to be natural, and nature, too.
No I am talking about what is still natural but SUPERnatural. As in a complete anomaly that is very different indeed from the rest of 'Nature' or the universe...like it goes outside the laws of physics or whatever - is such an anomaly that the notion and idea seems absurd because we never see it and there is no evidence of it....
If God exists and he is part of the universe then he is natural and nature in that sense because the universe is natural and nature...but he's not your normal natural...he's SUPERnatural because he's a complete anomaly and he designed the universe ITSELF...
But that's just it...if the universe CAME from him and he's an anomaly and operates very different and is SUPER right from the start....then if nature came from him then I guess that means that if he exists he COULD be non-nature right?
But perhaps its more that nature came from God than that God would have to be part of nature....
Rather than supernatural God having to be part of the universe and Nature and therefore 'not being supernatural' - if rather, - the universe and nature ITSELF came from him....perhaps Nature and the universe is part of the SUPERnatural and "God" rather than the other way around...
(Obviously that's in this hypothetical example to make a point - I do not remotely believe in "God" or a "God" or "gods" of any kind.)
EvF