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RE: Probe pictures Moon landing sites
September 10, 2011 at 2:28 pm
(September 10, 2011 at 1:17 pm)bozo Wrote: Well I wouldn't be totally convinced that this is proof positive.
If the landing was indeed faked then publishing some photos like these wouldn't be too difficult.
No! It's a conspiracy! Those pics are fake! It's a government conspiracy!
One thing I've learnt, is that no matter how much evidence of something, there will always be people who will continue to jump up and yell "Conspiracy!". Like flat earth nuts. I've visited their forum. Pure denial and lack of education. It's like they never went to school.
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RE: Probe pictures Moon landing sites
September 10, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Bozo, I do not have a great dislike for conspiracies or label all conspiracy theorists as nuts. I simply haven't met a theorist who wasn't nutty in some way and I haven't come across a conspiracy that has sufficient evidence. The J.F.K. assassination is fishy enough for me to think that it might have been an organized crime, but that isn't even really a conspiracy theory. Initial investigations by government authorities were the first to suggest it and have yet to state it is not the case. They simply don't know who else was involved. Moon landing happened. The Twin Towers fell because of the impact of the planes. Bigfoot isn't real and Area 51 has top secret stuff, not necessarily aliens. That's why they don't tell us what is happening there, or all of it, anyway.
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RE: Probe pictures Moon landing sites
September 10, 2011 at 3:02 pm
(September 10, 2011 at 2:01 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: The problem is that the american government regularly conspires. Iran Contra, Watergate and others, but these are all small rather easy to conceal and STILL CAME OUT.
The level of collusion in some of these theories would demand milions of dollars, split second timing and thousands of people staying quiet, they just arent do able.
The problem is that these conspiracy theory proponents believe governments have near supernatural abilities. Trying to explain to them the shear scale and complexity of their theories only reaffirms their belief that the government is all-powerful.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Probe pictures Moon landing sites
September 13, 2011 at 7:43 am
The recurring theme I've come across with the conspiracy theorists is a real lack of critical thinking abilities.
To them, lack of evidence in their favour just proves how hard the guvmint is working to cover it up, and evidence against their position must have been falsified. Just like young earth creationists and their "Dinosaur fossils? Devil put them there, lol, science, you so silly".
Galileo was a man of science oppressed by the irrational and superstitious. Today, he is used by the irrational and superstitious who claim they are being oppressed by science - Mark Crislip