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RE: The balance of an unreasonable lifestyle
September 16, 2011 at 5:43 pm
(September 16, 2011 at 5:34 pm)Castle Wrote: Ugly option 3: Yet atheist will grow in 20 years and may double to 6% of the world's population and Religion will shrink some.
The not so good news for you is already more people say they are spiritual rather than religious today. The world is slowly moving toward a spiritual age, I am just going with the flow and will keep on being happy
Not so good news for me? Don't make me laugh. I don't think people are becoming more superstitious, not round here anyway. Even if they were, it wouldn't affect me in anyway. I am very happy. Very content.
I want to see reality, in every way. Not your fantasy world.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: The balance of an unreasonable lifestyle
September 16, 2011 at 6:08 pm
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(September 16, 2011 at 5:43 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: (September 16, 2011 at 5:34 pm)Castle Wrote: Ugly option 3: Yet atheist will grow in 20 years and may double to 6% of the world's population and Religion will shrink some.
The not so good news for you is already more people say they are spiritual rather than religious today. The world is slowly moving toward a spiritual age, I am just going with the flow and will keep on being happy
Not so good news for me? Don't make me laugh. I don't think people are becoming more superstitious, not round here anyway. Even if they were, it wouldn't affect me in anyway. I am very happy. Very content.
I want to see reality, in every way. Not your fantasy world.
Religious topic are the largest here, you are parting right, going by the last Christain thread it appears they blow up those Christian threads as they come.
It all real unless disproven
(September 16, 2011 at 5:22 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: (September 16, 2011 at 4:59 pm)Castle Wrote: Religion totally suround you, even on this atheist forum it lead the topics
Beat Religion by added a tool of imagination and put spiritual in your balance and let shrink Religion's anicent spirituality to a crawl rather than letting them lead the world
Option 2
Bitch forever on the forum and on the outside world too
How about option 3? I rip religion apart and challenge any theist who runs around claiming all kinds of bullshit?
Also, for your information. I hardly spend any time debating theists. Only a tiny portion of my time is spent talking about how stupid religion is. Plus it makes for good practice in debating skills. I'm gaining, not losing.
You keep forgetting, I lack belief in anything superstitious. Not because I choose to but because I find it unconvincing and lacking not only credibility but explanatory power and value.
You did not blew me off yet, like some others. You may be considering more options in thinking power. Most great men in world human history work the middles between of Religion and Science and more often they are strongly spiritual.
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RE: The balance of an unreasonable lifestyle
September 16, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Quote:It all real unless disproven
No, it is real based on the available evidence. Facts.
Quote:You did not blew me off yet, like some others. You may be considering more options in thinking power. Most great men in world human history work the middles between of Religion and Science and more often they are strongly spiritual.
I stick to principles that work. Methods that I use to determine what is real and what is fiction. Scientific principles.
I don't care who or how many may believe in something. Numbers mean nothing. The whole globe could be spiritualistic, that don't mean I should or will ever join the club. I have a free and independent mind, I will use it.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: The balance of an unreasonable lifestyle
September 16, 2011 at 7:15 pm
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"Real until disproven." 
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The balance of an unreasonable lifestyle
September 16, 2011 at 7:18 pm
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Takes effort to fail that hard.
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Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: The balance of an unreasonable lifestyle
September 16, 2011 at 11:29 pm
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2011 at 11:38 pm by Castle.)
(September 16, 2011 at 6:30 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Quote:It all real unless disproven
No, it is real based on the available evidence. Facts.
Quote:You did not blew me off yet, like some others. You may be considering more options in thinking power. Most great men in world human history work the middles between of Religion and Science and more often they are strongly spiritual.
I stick to principles that work. Methods that I use to determine what is real and what is fiction. Scientific principles.
I don't care who or how many may believe in something. Numbers mean nothing. The whole globe could be spiritualistic, that don't mean I should or will ever join the club. I have a free and independent mind, I will use it.
Sounds really rigit, live and let live anyways
(September 16, 2011 at 7:15 pm)Rhythm Wrote: "Real until disproven."
I get a lot of small lists from atheist about the greatest atheist men in world human history.
John Lennon is often on those lists and here one of John’s quotes
I believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now?
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RE: The balance of an unreasonable lifestyle
September 16, 2011 at 11:47 pm
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Well, I suppose we could test your proposition Castle. Lets hit one group of people with a board, and suggest to the other group that they dream about being hit with a board. We can compare broken bones and bruises in the morning.
If you had to choose between being test subject A (hit with a board), and test subject B (dream about being hit with a board), which would you choose?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The balance of an unreasonable lifestyle
September 16, 2011 at 11:57 pm
(This post was last modified: September 17, 2011 at 12:17 am by Castle.)
(September 16, 2011 at 7:18 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Takes effort to fail that hard.
1. Man has taken many steps forward,
2. We live double the life expectancy from a 100 years ago
3. We travel to more places
4. Less people killed in wars per capita
5. More green plants now, than ever known before on this planet
ECT ECT .........
Alwayss… be lookin on the bright. Side of life
Whosss ssss ssss sss you know the song
(September 16, 2011 at 11:47 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Well, I suppose we could test your proposition Castle. Lets hit one group of people with a board, and suggest to the other group that they dream about being hit with a board. We can compare broken bones and bruises in the morning.
If you had to choose between being test subject A (hit with a board), and test subject B (dream about being hit with a board), which would you choose?
I would not dream about getting hit by a board , the very odd time I do get some unwanted nightmare. Most of my dreams are happy , rarely about suffering.
Once I had a dozen repented nightmares about the same thing.
IT was about hitting a woman with my car. Funny thing happen was, one day I did hit that woman for real. Drove the car in a way , (like I was perpared for it) that saved her life, and she got a jay-walking ticket from the police after wards.
She had Only 3 stiches
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RE: The balance of an unreasonable lifestyle
September 17, 2011 at 6:27 am
(September 16, 2011 at 11:29 pm)Castle Wrote: Sounds really rigit,
For you. If I took people's word for it and took baseless assertions on faith alone, no matter how extraordinary the claim may be, I'd believe anything! And that's the path of a deluded fool.
Principles and the requirement of evidence is what allows me to separate fact from fiction. Fantasy from reality. So I can see what's true or not. Science is a method, a tool to open up the unknown and learn. With the application of testability, observation, verification. If a claim cannot be backed up in any rational way, it is useless to me.
So feel free to believe in spirits and all that shite, but I won't. I'll stick to my principles, you stick to your faith.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: The balance of an unreasonable lifestyle
September 17, 2011 at 8:55 am
(September 16, 2011 at 11:29 pm)Castle Wrote: John Lennon is often on those lists and here one of John’s quotes
I believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now?
So, you live your life by what the king of the hippies once said?
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