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Raising of Dead Biological Bodies
#11
RE: Raising of Dead Biological Bodies
It's not in the information for the Wiki page, but you might find references if you dig around for information concerning the The Mount of Olives. I was always told that Jews try to get buried there because when the Messiah returns, those buried in that site will be raised first.
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#12
RE: Raising of Dead Biological Bodies
Oh, just dead bodies raising? That's an old one. One of the defining moments in our known history is found in the first burial sites that contain practical items likes axes, flints, arrowheads (and the graves themselves were often lined with very colorful powdered minerals). A life beyond this life seems to have been one of our first forays into religious experience. However, very early there's nothing to suggest that people thought the bodies themselves would actually raise. From that point though (a belief in an afterlife) it's a short hop and skip to bodily resurrection. "The Living Dead" make appearances in almost every society's folklore. Risen ancestors, vengeful demons, vampires(from traditional to eurotrash), Zombies. It's a pretty wide field. More than a couple of links worth to be sure.
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#13
RE: Raising of Dead Biological Bodies
I wish they would raise from the dead... Not only does it provide zombies to kill, but it provides christian zombies... Fuckin' A Wink
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#14
RE: Raising of Dead Biological Bodies
My son has been talking to me about Zoroastrianism for years and I've not paid attention. Maybe I should have. We're planning a trip to Europe together (leaving a week from today), so I should have a lot of time to pick his brain (his field of study is anthropology).



(September 19, 2011 at 8:52 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:
(September 19, 2011 at 8:47 am)Moonbeam Wrote:




Up to you sweet pea. Big Grin Check this thread any time you wish...bound to be someone with some more information for you. Essentially I am to understand that you may have to look to Hindu and Zoroastrianism for you answers and that will take a fair bit of reading on your part.

We are a superstitious species and loathe to let go of a good story.
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#15
RE: Raising of Dead Biological Bodies

Minimalist, did you write this? If not do you have the source? Thanks!


(September 18, 2011 at 10:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/4zoroa94.html

Quote:The Babylonian captivity of the 6th century B. C. transformed Judaism in a profound way, exposing the Jews to Zoroastrianism, which was virtually the state religion of Babylon at the time. Until then, the Jewish conception of the afterlife was vague. A shadowy existence in Sheol, the underworld, land of the dead (not to be confused with Hell) was all they had to look forward to. Zarathustra, however, had preached the bodily resurrection of the dead, who would face a last judgment (both individual and general) to determine their ultimate fate in the next life: either Paradise or torment. Daniel was the first Jewish prophet to refer to resurrection, judgment, and reward or punishment (12:2 ), and insofar as he was an advisor to King Darius (erroneously referred to as a Mede), he was in a position to know the religion thoroughly.

The new doctrine of resurrection was not universally accepted by the Jews and remained a point of contention for centuries until its ultimate acceptance. The Gospels (Matthew 22:23 ) record that the dispute was still going on during the time of Christ, with the Sadducees denying and the Pharisees affirming it. It may be a mere coincidence, but note the similarity between the names Pharisee and Farsi or Parsee, the Persians from whom the doctrine of resurrection was borrowed. In addition to incorporating the doctrines of resurrection and judgment, exposure to Zoroastrianism substantially altered Jewish Messianism as well. Zarathustra predicted the imminent arrival of a World Savior (Saoshyant), who would be born of a virgin and who would lead humanity in the final battle against Evil. Jewish Messianism grafted these conceptions onto their preexisting expectations of a Davidic king who would redeem the Jewish nation from foreign oppression.

Religious shits in the West would do well to study Zoroastrianism to learn from whence their silly bullshit came!


I am so sorry, Minimalist. I see the source now. I am such a dunce sometimes.


(September 19, 2011 at 3:52 pm)Moonbeam Wrote: Minimalist, did you write this? If not do you have the source? Thanks!


(September 18, 2011 at 10:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/4zoroa94.html

Quote:The Babylonian captivity of the 6th century B. C. transformed Judaism in a profound way, exposing the Jews to Zoroastrianism, which was virtually the state religion of Babylon at the time. Until then, the Jewish conception of the afterlife was vague. A shadowy existence in Sheol, the underworld, land of the dead (not to be confused with Hell) was all they had to look forward to. Zarathustra, however, had preached the bodily resurrection of the dead, who would face a last judgment (both individual and general) to determine their ultimate fate in the next life: either Paradise or torment. Daniel was the first Jewish prophet to refer to resurrection, judgment, and reward or punishment (12:2 ), and insofar as he was an advisor to King Darius (erroneously referred to as a Mede), he was in a position to know the religion thoroughly.

The new doctrine of resurrection was not universally accepted by the Jews and remained a point of contention for centuries until its ultimate acceptance. The Gospels (Matthew 22:23 ) record that the dispute was still going on during the time of Christ, with the Sadducees denying and the Pharisees affirming it. It may be a mere coincidence, but note the similarity between the names Pharisee and Farsi or Parsee, the Persians from whom the doctrine of resurrection was borrowed. In addition to incorporating the doctrines of resurrection and judgment, exposure to Zoroastrianism substantially altered Jewish Messianism as well. Zarathustra predicted the imminent arrival of a World Savior (Saoshyant), who would be born of a virgin and who would lead humanity in the final battle against Evil. Jewish Messianism grafted these conceptions onto their preexisting expectations of a Davidic king who would redeem the Jewish nation from foreign oppression.

Religious shits in the West would do well to study Zoroastrianism to learn from whence their silly bullshit came!

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