Male or female???

[Jackalope]

I'm more than willing to call you whatever you wish to be called, but I'm sorry, you have not proven to me that there is any malice whatsoever in a merely descriptive word assigned by the scientific medical community.

As someone with several (mental) disorders, I'm not offended in the least by the term. I can't say that I can necessarily understand Sae's position as my issues have nothing to do with gender identity - I can only try (and I would probably fall short).

I personally do not find the term offensive, but I do understand that some do. Like Sae, my condition(s) have a significant degree of social stigma and misunderstanding attached to them.

"Disorder" to me (and as I understand how it is used in the medical community) simply implies that the condition is a functional disturbance - which in my case is quite true.

[Dotard]

... Besides, it's just a word to describe something that doesn't function properly in nature ... something that medical science can possibly help to correct.

Not unlike homosexuality, girls born with a penis or guys born with vaginas and titties.
I don't see why anyone is offended by this. I'd say disordered is a fair description of an anomaly in nature. Period.

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Gender, it's between the ears, not the legs.

Nope. It's between the legs.
If what is between the ears does not match what is between the legs, it is what is between the ears that carries the irregularity or anomaly.

Irregularity, abnormality, anomaly, disorder. They're called synonyms.

[Violet]

Comparing the word disordered to the word nigger is a hell of a jump, especially considering that the medical community did not sit around trying to think up words that offend you. Your explanation does indeed give me some insight on why you are offended, but again my only point was that the actual word disorder was not cooked up to insult, belittle or chastise a person of your irregular condition.

Is it really? I think not. Whatever a word is 'cooked up as', consider the environment I left but scarce years ago: highschool. It's growing to be quite insulting indeed. It's even entering into the world of young college

In the history of the world, I highly doubt that calling someone disordered as a way of insulting them has ever happened during a heated argument. I'm more than willing to call you whatever you wish to be called, but I'm sorry, you have not proven to me that there is any malice whatsoever in a merely descriptive word assigned by the scientific medical community.

Not all insults are used in a heated argument. No, 'freak' is usually the preferred heated form of 'disordered'. Plenty of insults are used quite cooly, and this is one of them. 'Mentally challenged' is another.

I told you, it is not 'merely' a descriptive word of medical conditions. It is now also an insult. Just as "retarded" is not only an insult: it is a way to describe things that are slow. Fun, isn't this thing called language, which if it isn't Latin is constantly evolving

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As someone with several (mental) disorders, I'm not offended in the least by the term. I can't say that I can necessarily understand Sae's position as my issues have nothing to do with gender identity - I can only try (and I would probably fall short).

I personally do not find the term offensive, but I do understand that some do. Like Sae, my condition(s) have a significant degree of social stigma and misunderstanding attached to them.

"Disorder" to me (and as I understand how it is used in the medical community) simply implies that the condition is a functional disturbance - which in my case is quite true.

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Perhaps it's something unique to Alaska, as I haven't seen it here yet. Were you the school's primary source of mockery, or were you treated as an aside from the main scapegoats?

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Not unlike homosexuality, girls born with a penis or guys born with vaginas and titties.
I don't see why anyone is offended by this. I'd say disordered is a fair description of an anomaly in nature. Period.

I see nothing out of order with something simply because it doesn't often occur. Again, irregularity is the better word to describe it for what it is.

Nope. It's between the legs.

Gender's in the brain. If I cut off your penis are you no longer a man? I'd be particularly motivated to test this out according to volunteer test subjects should you answer 'yes'

If what is between the ears does not match what is between the legs, it is what is between the ears that carries the irregularity or anomaly.

Irregularity, abnormality, anomaly, disorder. They're called synonyms.

It's the combination of the two that is together an anomaly, as the genders of man/woman (in the brain) is quite common, and so are penises and vaginas. I see a lot more wrong with my body than a penis, but I'm working on it, just as 'fat girls' might work on becoming thinner, or as many (young) women use concealer to hide pimples

Also, all synonyms are not made equal. Collosal, big, huge, and towering could all be used to describe something large... but they specify particulars and cannot always be used to replace each other.

It's called word usage.

[Dotard]

If I cut off your penis are you no longer a man?

Gender is determined by what you are born with between the legs. Better?

A dude thinks he's a girl. You may believe the best option is to cut off his pecker and insert vagina. I happen to believe the better option would be to determine what the chemical malfunction is within their brains and work to correct that.

[BloodyHeretic]

Dotard, I suggest you watch the video I posted in post no. 2 of this thread, then you might appreciate gender is not so simple.

[Faith No More]

Gender is determined by what you are born with between the legs. Better?

Then what gender are those born with both sexual organs?

[KichigaiNeko]

Gender is determined by what you are born with between the legs. Better?

Then what gender are those born with both sexual organs?

Refer to Post #2

[Erinome]

If I cut off your penis are you no longer a man?

Gender is determined by what you are born with between the legs. Better?

Wrongy Wrongerton!

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-...rmines-sex

That's just technical stuff.

A dude thinks he's a girl. You may believe the best option is to cut off his pecker and insert vagina. I happen to believe the better option would be to determine what the chemical malfunction is within their brains and work to correct that.

What a dumbass thing to say.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexualism

Why would you talk about something you obviously don't know a damn thing about?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria

I'm a gay man who just happened to be born with a vagina, and I am finally fine with that. Why do you feel the need to come along and suggest there is something wrong with me, or any person for that matter? Get off it.

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Gender is determined by what you are born with between the legs. Better?

Then what gender are those born with both sexual organs?

He doesn't have a fucking clue. Just talking out the side of his neck, laying waste to any doubts we had about his vague perception of reality.

[Faith No More]

Gender is determined by what you are born with between the legs. Better?

Then what gender are those born with both sexual organs?

Refer to Post #2

Thanks Kichi, but I want to hear Dotard's answer

[Violet]

...

There was another trans here and he didn't tell me?

I feel neglected.

Anyway, I'll respond to our dearest dotard later ^_^ Depends on if I'm having hot lezzie sex or not <3

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If I cut off your penis are you no longer a man?

Gender is determined by what you are born with between the legs. Better?

A dude thinks he's a girl. You may believe the best option is to cut off his pecker and insert vagina. I happen to believe the better option would be to determine what the chemical malfunction is within their brains and work to correct that.

Intersex'll love that comment XD

If a dude thought he was a girl, then there might well be something wrong with him. If a girl with broad shoulders and a penis and facial hair thought she was a girl... then, well: she's right XD

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Needless to say, one can't have hot lezzie sex while her partner's in class.

Or maybe one can...