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Sins
#11
RE: Sins
(October 18, 2011 at 12:49 am)Rayaan Wrote: I think of sins as something that has a quantity.

And sins are like viruses or bugs in a biological computer which can 'corrupt' the soul if they accumulate too much.
(But we can also delete them by asking for forgiveness).

In this post, I briefly explained how the whole universe may be a quantum computer. So, I think that there is also computational nature behind sins. They are information about our lives which can be stored, retrieved, or deleted from our souls. However, this is just my own philosophical view of "sin" and thus I'm aware that could be wrong. I don't even think that there is any way to test it.

"Quantity"? Care to quantify that? Sin is entirely unlike the other two you mentioned in that one group of things can be demonstrated to exist, the other cannot. Invisible unicorns are a bit like waffles (I can do it too). I won't even touch forgiveness because it depends not only upon the existence of an as yet unproven thing called sin, but also an elaborate (and similarly unproven) heavenly machinery as a mechanism. You link articles promoting science and then tack on unverifiable hypothesis as if the two belong together. Could be wrong is probably an understatement.

There's a reason that classical apologetics doesn't work. Not for god, not for sin, nothing. No matter where you begin or how many links between there and god, at some point you are forced to abandon everything you have referenced and defer to faith. The chain is broken, in every direction.

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#12
RE: Sins
It has a quantity, but there's no way to test it. Hmmmm....
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#13
RE: Sins
In other words, sin is discrete, like the information in a credit card. I think of the soul as a spiritual account with a record of our actions along with sins.
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#14
RE: Sins
How have you determined this? Can we see the data? Has anyone attempted to replicate your findings?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#15
RE: Sins
(October 18, 2011 at 12:49 am)Rayaan Wrote: we can also delete them by asking for forgiveness
Genuine question buddy (lures Rayaan into his carefully spung trap)

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How does that work in Islam?
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#16
RE: Sins
It doesn't, same as in Christianity.
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#17
RE: Sins
*shoots ElDinero in the foot*
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#18
RE: Sins
 Exodus 35:2

Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

So everyone who has ever worked a Sunday should be put to death because it's a sin? Funny how priests work on that day.
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#19
RE: Sins
Ah but that's not 'work' ...Gods work doesn't count :S
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#20
RE: Sins
Huge thumbs up to frodo, I don't agree with everything, I'll leave it at that but you got some big respect from me.

The reason I posted this is because my girlfriend is a Christian. She is not a hardcore fundamentalist Christian, but she believes in the basic values and she is a very kind and understanding woman. The thing is though, she told me that she is going to hell because we've had sex outside of marriage, which is a huge sin to her religion. When meeting her family last Sunday, one of her older aunts made sure to let me know if she got pregnant outside of marriage she would not support her, myself or our child.

I plan on marrying this girl, I know things change, but I would honestly be there for our child(ren) through everything.

My girlfriend took it hard that her family would disown her because of sex outside of marriage. Who exactly is this hurting? My point was, who are the victims in victimless crimes? Maybe I should have made a thread about victimless crimes instead.

I don't see how sex outside of marriage (which is pleasure and emotional and brings couples closer together), getting angry with someone and not hurting them in any way, eating blood from meat, getting a tattoo, and something as simple as wearing clothes of the opposite gender could be considered a sin, and could result in one going to hell.

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