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| I support it. | 1 | 3.85% | |
| I oppose it. | 25 | 96.15% | |
| Total | 26 vote(s) | 100% | |
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 (October 19, 2011 at 6:17 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: I've actually been thinking about this all night, and Rev - would you say "keeping a secret" is censorship? I'm not telling! 
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. 
Good education to the people, in order to be able to think for themselves. No censorship, every opinion should have it's opportunity to be heard, no matter how stupid the opinion.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
 (October 19, 2011 at 1:05 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: ... but I do respect the need of the gov't to keep some things secret for defense purposes. This creates a subjective line. What about a 'false flag' operation? (I do realize this is a moot question, but we are expressing opinions.)
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy  (October 19, 2011 at 1:32 pm)Vaeolet Lilly Blossom Wrote: I believe illegality shouldn't be censored either. hmm..I think that may be pushing the bounds of the topic. I mean, if someone made a video of torturing my daughter before she was slowly killed, I would go ballistic if people claimed a right to publicly play the video.  (October 19, 2011 at 6:13 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I mean, if someone made a video of torturing my daughter before she was slowly killed, I would go ballistic if people claimed a right to publicly play the video. And if they were playing the video to spread awareness of the crime, would you still go ballistic? Emotional absolutes rarely make logical sense. Context is key. Slave to the Patriarchy no more
 (October 19, 2011 at 9:17 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:(October 19, 2011 at 6:13 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I mean, if someone made a video of torturing my daughter before she was slowly killed, I would go ballistic if people claimed a right to publicly play the video. Indeed "If the ends do not justify the means, what on earth does?" (anon) (October 19, 2011 at 9:17 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:(October 19, 2011 at 6:13 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I mean, if someone made a video of torturing my daughter before she was slowly killed, I would go ballistic if people claimed a right to publicly play the video. Lets be honest now, in no way was I trying to spread an "emotional absolute". Im an absurdist, there is no ethical or emotional "absolute" anything. Now, if they were trying to spread awareness, I may actually consider it if it was edited some. Lets also be honest and realize I was merely speaking of my own opinion. In the end, my opinion doesnt mean jack shit in that situation.  (October 19, 2011 at 5:28 pm)IATIA Wrote: This creates a subjective line. What about a 'false flag' operation? Sorry - I read the question yesterday, got distracted, then completely forgot. I have to say, I had to wiki False Flags and I might need someone with a better understanding of them to give me a good snapshot of exactly what they are, but it seems to me they deal more with dishonesty than with censorship. I don't feel that keeping a secret or dishonesty are censorship as Rev defined it. On the other hand, I don't condone the dishonesty. It's one thing to keep training, weapons, or craft a secret for defense. It's another thing entirely to say "you're not allowed to express this opinion." It's a fine line, and as was stated above it depends highly on context. ![[Image: Untitled2_zpswaosccbr.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1140.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn569%2Fthesummerqueen%2FUntitled2_zpswaosccbr.png) RE: Censorship
October 20, 2011 at 5:57 pm
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You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy  RE: Censorship
October 21, 2011 at 10:17 am
(This post was last modified: October 21, 2011 at 10:23 am by Violet.)
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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