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Is There Any Point In Solipsism?
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RE: Is There Any Point In Solipsism?
(November 2, 2011 at 2:26 am)padraic Wrote: You answered your own question: Science does not deal in certainties.Metaphysical and broad philosophical positions less so.

Not all knowledge is scientific.

Quote:When a person asserts "I KNOW [am certain] there is a god" for example, he is making a statement of belief or personal certitude..

I agree. But I do not see how this is not also among his knowledge base.

Quote:In my opinion,it is a foolish person who claims certainty about anything,especially without credible evidence to support his claim.

As I think it is often foolish to be certain. I'm fatalistically uncertain. I'm not sure what's going on but I expect the worst Smile

Quote:To simply assert X,Y or Z is stupid or wrong,without explaining why and presenting evidence is an argument from personal incredulity,a logical fallacy.

Agree Smile
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RE: Is There Any Point In Solipsism?
Quote:To simply assert X,Y or Z is stupid or wrong,without explaining why and presenting evidence is an argument from personal incredulity,a logical fallacy.
Hmm, if I dismissed the point, I don't need to produce evidence to support me not believing in it. The believer has to present evidence, which others will take into account, so I see no reason for believing in an idea with no fortification or strength.
Bertrand Russell once received a letter from a solipsist stating how fantastic it is; she was expressing her sheer incredulity at why others are not solipsists just like her.
You can't really escape this thing we call 'reality'. Even the most devoted and adamant solipsist.



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RE: Is There Any Point In Solipsism?
(November 2, 2011 at 3:15 pm)JollyForr Wrote: You can't really escape this thing we call 'reality'. Even the most devoted and adamant solipsist.

Assumptions and hypotheses follow:

I am a conscious and aware singularity. I control my world. Reality is what I create.

Given the proper understanding, I could change my reality to anything I desire. Even after I find my control, it is unlikely though, that I could prove this to anyone, as it would remain my reality and not yours. (vice versa)

We are a bio-mechanical robot that is conscious of what the body has already done and an awareness that creates an excuse called 'free will'. Yeah ... I meant to do that.

Or, we have a free will that must be disassociated from the bio-chemical interactions of the body, which then begs the question of the source or 'container' of our 'free will' and also how do we interact with each other?

I expect that you exist, but not in my reality per se, though there 'appears' to be an interaction between each of our realities. The 'real' you, however, may have a different reality that does not include me and the reality I perceive you in has no basis in your reality. (I know, confusing, two different yous, but only one of you is you. Clear now?Thinking)

As you read this, you may think "of course I an real, this guy is nuts.", but that is what I would expect from you in my reality. There is no way known, or that I could even comprehend at this time, that you could prove to me that you are anything more than my imagination.

End of assumptions and hypotheses.

The point of all this is a direct answer to the original question. If solipsism is true and we find a way to step above the 'running scenario' and learn to control our reality, imagine the possibilities

However or whatever our awareness is, if we truly have free will, then we should be able to do much more than choose between a Coke and a Pepsi.
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