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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 3, 2013 at 11:00 am
(October 3, 2013 at 10:58 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: "Godidit" once again halts any hope of discussion progress. Why isn't there a loony bin where we can put all the YECs?
They're called churches. 
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 3, 2013 at 11:02 am
(October 3, 2013 at 11:00 am)Esquilax Wrote: (October 3, 2013 at 10:58 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: "Godidit" once again halts any hope of discussion progress. Why isn't there a loony bin where we can put all the YECs?
They're called churches.
Can we lock them in? 
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 3, 2013 at 11:09 am
(October 3, 2013 at 11:02 am)Chas Wrote: (October 3, 2013 at 11:00 am)Esquilax Wrote: They're called churches.
Can we lock them in?
We could seal a big circus tent over them!
You know, make the exterior match what goes on inside.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 3, 2013 at 12:04 pm
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(October 3, 2013 at 10:53 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Goddidit. Next question.
As far as continents being all one and then splitting 6,000 years ago to move to their current locations in such a short amount of time, you'd have to be an idiot to believe this. Or else invoke Goddidit.
The Bible said that before the scientists came up with a similar theory.
God can certainly do it in a short time.
(October 3, 2013 at 10:24 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: A very simple question: Where did the water go?
When did the continents split? (give me the year)
The Bible records that the mountains were raised and ocean basins were made deeper.
So that would take care of it.
Please note if the earth were level without mountains or ocean basins, water would cover the earth about 1 1/2 deep.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 3, 2013 at 12:12 pm
Would you please quote the verses where the mountains were raised and ocean basins were made deeper? Not disputing, I just don't remember that being part of the Flood narrative.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 3, 2013 at 12:13 pm
(October 3, 2013 at 12:04 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: The Bible said that before the scientists came up with a similar theory.
Where?
Quote:God can certainly do it in a short time.
Now prove that that's actually what did happen. Because nothing in geology or plate tectonics agrees with your standard magical panacea.
Or, just grow up. That'd be nice too.
Quote:The Bible records that the mountains were raised and ocean basins were made deeper.
Magic!
Quote:So that would take care of it.
Only when you can prove it actually happened.
Oh, and hey: what qualifications do you have, again? I can't help noticing how unwilling you seem to be around this question!
Is it home schooling? Were you homeschooled in some Alabama basement somewhere?
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 3, 2013 at 12:14 pm
Ok, SBTGF, I don't think you are understanding the criticism that is coming your way. Everyone is annoyed because you ultimately say: God did it. We don't like that answer because it has no explanatory power whatsoever. It doesn't tell us how at all, you might as well say Dumbledore magicked it there. Rainbowdash magicked it there. Gandalf did it. You see? That doesn't explain anything. See, in the scientific world, a hypothesis is considered good when it explains things. You haven't explained anything. All that has come from you is flat assertions that you are right and god did it. All this and you have provided no evidence. And the evidence that you did point out has been refuted completely.
Have you got me on ignore because you haven't answered a single one of my posts?
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 3, 2013 at 12:14 pm
(October 3, 2013 at 12:04 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: The Bible said that before the scientists came up with a similar theory.
Book, chapter, and verse please?
Quote:God can certainly do it in a short time.
Again, you're invoking "Goddidit." Like I said, the more magic you have to invoke to prove something means the less likely it is to be true.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 3, 2013 at 12:16 pm
(October 3, 2013 at 12:14 pm)Rationalman Wrote: Ok, SBTGF, I don't think you are understanding the criticism that is coming your way. Everyone is annoyed because you ultimately say: God did it. We don't like that answer because it has no explanatory power whatsoever. It doesn't tell us how at all, you might as well say Dumbledore magicked it there. Rainbowdash magicked it there. Gandalf did it. You see? That doesn't explain anything. See, in the scientific world, a hypothesis is considered good when it explains things. You haven't explained anything. All that has come from you is flat assertions that you are right and god did it. All this and you have provided no evidence. And the evidence that you did point out has been refuted completely.
Have you got me on ignore because you haven't answered a single one of my posts?
I am working on facts.
Explain the origin of the vast complexity of life.
No one has yet.
Answer the simple questions in the other topic.
No one has yet.
Are you relying on a multitude of miraculous events?
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 3, 2013 at 12:20 pm
(October 3, 2013 at 12:16 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: I am working on facts.
Explain the origin of the vast complexity of life.
No one has yet.
Answer the simple questions in the other topic.
No one has yet.
Are you relying on a multitude of miraculous events?
Do you not understand that what you just said is a fallacy? Cause you have done this over and over again. Its called an argument from ignorance and it is a logical fallacy. Just because we don't know the answer yet, does not mean that its your god by default.
People thought much the same thing with thunder and lightning. They thought Zeus was throwing lightning bolts because they didn't have any other explanation. And guess what. They were wrong.
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“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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