Cheating website hacked and customer data released.

[Excited Penguin]

I find that you take a simplistic view of it. Or maybe you're biased about it for some reason.

There are surely marriages among those destroyed by this action in which the cheated one wouldn't have ever found out about it - and been happier for it too. The view that what we don't know doesn't hurt us and that ignorance is bliss, can be especially true in this situation. But I might be wrong about this. Even so, it is the hackers' fault and you can't take that away from it just by putting an immoral spin into (or even bringing ethical considerations into it at all)  what they uncovered - at least not in this case, certainly. These are still people. Their lives should remain private no matter what - to the extent they wish them to be as such and especially if they're using a product that is supposed to protect their privacy. They fucked someone else - so fucking what? It's not a crime - or, at least, it sure as hell shouldn't be(especially when you take into account natural biological impulses that some humans have in the extreme).

I've never been cheated on, not that I know of. I also tend towards open relationships, so it's not really an issue for me. I've also never been married. I agree that it's not really a big deal if someone fucks someone else. However I agree with you. If it's emotionally damaging to the people who don't agree then it is morally wrong. Be an adult and work something out with your spouse. You can't blame the people who find out. That's like blaming snowden for revealing all the stuff the government was doing wrong. Maybe we'd be happier if we didn't know, but people have the right to know. This is all without the issue of all the dishonest and the STD risk.

I haven't thought about the STDs risk. The emotional side of things I already covered - what you don't know can't hurt you. But I don't know how to get around the STDs, nor am I an expert on that sort of stuff so I'll refrain from further attacking marriage or defending the cheaters, given this - it's quite enough. Thanks for that.

One small note though, without the STDs your argument would fail altogether, I think. Nor could it include the Snowden comparison. But that's all meaningless, since being that cheating involves an enormous risk of infecting both married partners, it's quite enough of a reason for you to be on the right on this.

Actually, on that basis alone I find the institution of marriage to make a lot more sense, especially if you're a heterosexual man - since I think men are more prone to cheating than women. But you could also get around that on the basis of trust, say if you were only selecting your sexual partners from a non-inclusive group of people you are part of who weren't fucking anyone else - or something like that. Or if you were part of a system where everyone agreed to test themselves before entering a sexual relationship with someone else. Or simply if you have reason good enough to believe that whoever you're having sex with is not infected with any STDs.

This is all ignoring the condom, which is not exactly perfect but still, comes in handy in these kinds of situations.



If you want us to further explore what implications might arise from the emotional side of this though, let me know.