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Poll: Do you think the UK should stay in the EU or leave?
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EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay?
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RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay?
(April 19, 2016 at 4:30 pm)robvalue Wrote: I admit I don't know enough about it to make a fully informed decision. I think it's incredibly complicated.

Don't take this personally but this infuriates me. I've heard a lot of people say exactly this. And these people will almost certainly vote to stay because of the doomsayers and fearmongerers. 

It's not that complicated. It's a yes or no question. Do you want the UK to be a part of a European political union? 

Well, we're already part of it and let's have a look how it's gone. Several countries have gone bust in the EU for a start. We have a migrant crisis which we can't control in large part because there is no border control. We have terrorists using this crisis to get around as freely as they like and threaten our security (which will be scoffed at, but Nigel Farage was laughed at when he said this would happen in April 2014, in front of the EU parliament, look at what has happened in Paris and Brussels). We are paying ever increasing amounts to EU parliament every month. In 2015 the UK's net contribution is estimated to be £8.5 Billion (note that is net, as in this is money we're out of pocket on, and not money we expect to get back). It's also estimated the EU have their fingers in around 50% of our legislation and laws (so just on principle alone, unelected officials have a say in half of our laws), some estimates are even higher depending on what source you use.

I could go on.

But just look at the current state of the EU and ask, do you want more of this? Or do you want out?

Either option has uncertainty. That's the thing about the future, nobody knows what it holds. The same economists that predict doom if the UK leaves are probably the same ones that warned us all about the global financial crisis. Not. 

In 5 years, if the UK leaves, I'm sure we might encounter some financial difficulty. We've got pretty good at dealing with that haven't we. But in 20 years, will the UK be better off, or worse off if we leave? Let's say we stay, who's to say that the whole EU won't collapse and then we're a part of that? Like I said, countries have already gone bankrupt under the EU's watch, a watch that was supposed to guarantee us more financial stability. 

And let's not forget about the countries expecting EU membership in the coming years? Turkey. Albania. Serbia. Bosnia. Are these countries that are going to solidify the economic union or weaken it?


The reality is, nobody knows what the future really holds. This vote comes down to gut instinct IMO. And for me, I'll be voting to leave on balance of what we can already see with the EU.
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EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Napoléon - April 19, 2016 at 3:50 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by robvalue - April 19, 2016 at 4:07 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Napoléon - April 19, 2016 at 4:11 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by abaris - April 19, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Napoléon - April 19, 2016 at 4:15 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by abaris - April 19, 2016 at 4:23 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Napoléon - April 19, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by abaris - April 19, 2016 at 4:35 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Minimalist - April 19, 2016 at 4:30 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Napoléon - April 19, 2016 at 4:47 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Minimalist - April 20, 2016 at 1:08 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by abaris - April 20, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Napoléon - April 20, 2016 at 2:23 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by abaris - April 20, 2016 at 2:27 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Napoléon - April 20, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by abaris - April 20, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Napoléon - April 20, 2016 at 3:27 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Minimalist - April 20, 2016 at 3:06 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Napoléon - April 20, 2016 at 3:26 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by abaris - April 20, 2016 at 3:45 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Napoléon - April 20, 2016 at 4:31 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Minimalist - April 21, 2016 at 4:18 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Napoléon - April 21, 2016 at 4:21 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by robvalue - April 19, 2016 at 4:30 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Napoléon - April 19, 2016 at 4:46 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by abaris - April 19, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Napoléon - April 19, 2016 at 4:54 pm
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RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by Napoléon - April 22, 2016 at 1:49 pm
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RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by I_am_not_mafia - April 20, 2016 at 12:11 pm
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RE: EU: Should the UK Leave or Stay? - by robvalue - April 20, 2016 at 6:21 am
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