RE: UK to leave EU
June 27, 2016 at 11:17 am
(This post was last modified: June 27, 2016 at 12:10 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(June 27, 2016 at 11:09 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote:(June 27, 2016 at 11:05 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: The Independent article on the matter was exactly the one I found. Still looks like conspiracy theory to me.
Just saying I require more evidence than rumours about plotting.
So you read the part where
"The EU has admitted that TTIP will probably cause unemployment as jobs switch to the US, where labour standards and trade union rights are lower. It has even advised EU members to draw on European support funds to compensate for the expected unemployment.
Examples from other similar bi-lateral trade agreements around the world support the case for job losses. The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) between the US, Canada and Mexico caused the loss of one million US jobs over 12 years, instead of the hundreds of thousands of extra that were promised."
It seems to me like the data and evidence on the issue is unclear. The EU is certainly good for the UK, Europe and the world as a whole in my opinion as a Remainer. In your opinion as a Leaver I at least know you consider the EU bad for the UK. I don't know where you stand regarding its effects on Europe and the world as a whole.
As for the TTIP, I am not sure it has a particularly good effect on the UK or Europe... the evidence seems unclear on that. I don't know what to think based on the mixed data. But I smell a rat of a conspiracy theory especially considering the following: If the TTIP is so evil why isn't the whole world out to stop it? If the TTIP has a positive purpose for the world as a whole then it's my view that it's probably also good for Europe and the UK. Although, I'm still not sure what to think.
But ultimately it's the world as a whole I care about anyway. If the TTIP is so powerful and effects both America and the EU and if it's also so dangerous.... why isn't the whole world out to stop it?