(January 12, 2017 at 11:19 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As I said on a different thread, one of the double standards I see among some people here (not all) is that they are quick to attribute a person's bad actions to their religious beliefs. But when a person does something good after being inspired/influenced by their religious beliefs to do so, all of the sudden religion has nothing to do with that person's actions.
That's atheism 101
(March 1, 2016 at 6:15 am)Huggy74 Wrote: But you find vaccines to be miraculous, when it's ones own immune system (given to you by God) that does the actual work.*edited down to relevant points see op for full context*
(March 1, 2016 at 7:16 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Yes, I find vaccines to be more impressive because they've actually accomplished things. And no, you don't get to give God or Jesus credit for our immune system, because he told us absolutely nothing about them, instead leaving us to believe disease came from Demons.
(March 2, 2016 at 1:30 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: But since you tried to pin the genocide of the Indians on Christianity, will you also give credit to Christianity for inventing the vaccine, that saved all those lives, seeing how the man that invented the smallpox vaccine was a "Jesus freak"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Jenner
Quote:Neither fanatic nor lax, Jenner was a Christian who in his personal correspondence showed himself quite spiritual; he treasured the Bible. Some days before his death, he stated to a friend: "I am not surprised that men are not grateful to me; but I wonder that they are not grateful to God for the good which he has made me the instrument of conveying to my fellow creatures."
Therefore what you consider to be the greatest human achievement; was accomplished by a christian...
(March 2, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Cecelia Wrote: And no, Christianity doesn't get credit for something just because a Christian did it. Not unless Christianity led them to do it, and Vaccines surely weren't caused by Christianity.
(March 2, 2016 at 10:32 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Also what's interesting is that you were willing to pin the extermination of the Native Americans on Christianity with zero evidence that Christianity condones said extermination, yet you're able to make that distinction when it comes to a Christian doing good.
Edward Jenner actually gave the credit to God for the work he accomplished, didn't you read the quote I posted?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Jenner
Quote:Neither fanatic nor lax, Jenner was a Christian who in his personal correspondence showed himself quite spiritual; he treasured the Bible. Some days before his death, he stated to a friend: "I am not surprised that men are not grateful to me; but I wonder that they are not grateful to God for the good which he has made me the instrument of conveying to my fellow creatures."*emphasis mine* (also changed the relevant part to "blind as bat red")
Since Jenner himself gave credit to God for his work, and since he was a christian are you now willing to credit Christianity for inventing the vaccine?
It's only fair right?
(March 3, 2016 at 5:16 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Christianity gets no credit, because it doesn't come from the bible. It came from observation and science.
Imagine if Jesus had told us all about Penicillin, vaccinations, and told us about germ theory, instead of lying to us saying that demons cause sickness. God shouldn't lie.
(March 3, 2016 at 7:54 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
You were quick to blame Christianity for the spread of smallpox to native Americans, but not for the invention of the vaccine? Isn't that a bit of a double standard?