Old threads of discussion I have had.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The property is who leads. And all problems, like the Torah properly says, is when people take the name of God and name themselves with it.

Everyone representing morality as if they know what's up when they have no clue and are in need of an Image of God and name of God like Adam, appointed by God like Seth.

That may be true, but you will still have to clean behind the fridge, like it or not. 

Boru